You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #69: Bless you. [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology Donate to DU
knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #68
69. Bless you.
Thank you for this. It has been hellish. Today was our mediation conference, and while I won on all the big stuff, it was amazingly painful and awful. Thank goodness I didn't have to actually deal with him directly, though.

I can totally see how anyone could get like that in a hellfire-and-brimstone church. Sinners in the hands of an angry God and all that rot. I've been away from that kind of church for so long now that it feels foreign to me, though I still know the lingo and well remember the guilt and fear. They're really not healthy places to be for most people, I think, but that's just my opinion.

It's about love, and know that you are loved. :hug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -Honest question: How does someone pretend to have a faith he doesn't believe in? knitter4democracy  Apr-29-09 11:19 PM   #0 
  - I was a medic for ten years  nadinbrzezinski   Apr-29-09 11:26 PM   #1 
  - I think that might be part of it for him, too.  knitter4democracy   Apr-29-09 11:53 PM   #7 
     - Well I understand that, I used to feel something when going to temple  nadinbrzezinski   Apr-30-09 12:32 AM   #15 
  - Has it ever done you any good?  HeresyLives   Apr-29-09 11:27 PM   #2 
  - Personally, yes.  knitter4democracy   Apr-29-09 11:51 PM   #6 
     - 'God 'doesn't seem to have helped  HeresyLives   Apr-29-09 11:55 PM   #8 
        - And that's where we disagree.  knitter4democracy   Apr-29-09 11:59 PM   #11 
        - You told yourself a fairytale.  HeresyLives   Apr-30-09 12:03 AM   #13 
           - Okay.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 12:16 AM   #14 
           - Hey, YOU asked the question.  HeresyLives   Apr-30-09 12:36 AM   #16 
           - Except that's not the question that was asked. It was the one you wanted to  JerseygirlCT   Apr-30-09 07:54 PM   #38 
           - That wasn't what I asked, though.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 08:36 PM   #39 
           - It is. Absolutely. nt  JerseygirlCT   Apr-30-09 07:53 PM   #37 
           - She said in her OP that she wasn't interested in bashing of her faith.  Quantess   Apr-30-09 02:41 AM   #20 
           - You know, it surely sounds like you DO  JerseygirlCT   Apr-30-09 07:53 PM   #36 
           - So you don't have any problems?  Critters2   May-07-09 10:59 PM   #70 
        - That's some pretty sanctimonious bullshit right there.  varkam   May-01-09 10:56 PM   #62 
  - started thinking about what I believed, vs what I knew first-hand to be true.  Voice for Peace   Apr-29-09 11:27 PM   #3 
  - I used to believe in Santa Claus, but I don't any longer. One day I looked around and said to myself  John Q. Citizen   Apr-29-09 11:34 PM   #4 
  - On Santa: Why does he give the rich kids nicer presents than he gives the poor kids?  Towlie   Apr-29-09 11:49 PM   #5 
  - I think this was my kids' last year for Santa, too.  knitter4democracy   Apr-29-09 11:57 PM   #9 
  - I can only remember being a little kid and afraid not to believe  Warpy   Apr-29-09 11:57 PM   #10 
  - That makes sense.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 12:02 AM   #12 
  - Losing my faith was kind of a divorce for me.  elshiva   Apr-30-09 01:03 AM   #17 
  - Thank you so much for this.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 08:39 PM   #40 
     - Thank you, I love your posts, too.  elshiva   Apr-30-09 09:33 PM   #51 
        - I'm critical of a lot of those discussions, too.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 10:11 PM   #52 
           - Yes, I get understand that, as I said, I was a Religious Studies Major in college.  elshiva   Apr-30-09 10:58 PM   #53 
           - I would go off on her, just like I did that Focus on the Family PR chick.  knitter4democracy   May-01-09 01:57 PM   #57 
              - Thank you, again.  elshiva   May-01-09 09:49 PM   #61 
                 - My church now is a lot better, though we still have a lot of work ahead.  knitter4democracy   May-02-09 08:21 AM   #63 
                    - I have a very good friend who's converted to Orthodoxy,  Critters2   May-07-09 11:16 PM   #71 
           - They can't extrapolate because they don't want to - it would  JerseygirlCT   May-01-09 08:32 AM   #55 
              - Amen to all of that.  knitter4democracy   May-01-09 01:58 PM   #58 
                 - You know, I cannot remember who it was  JerseygirlCT   May-01-09 02:24 PM   #59 
  - Sorry you're going through the stress and crazy.  Why Syzygy   Apr-30-09 01:48 AM   #18 
  - first, allow me to offer my sympathies for the hurt you must be feeling in these very terrible days  left is right   Apr-30-09 01:52 AM   #19 
  - I think people get caught up in black and white with faith.  napoleon_in_rags   Apr-30-09 02:49 AM   #21 
  - That makes a huge amount of sense.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 08:43 PM   #41 
  - Pretending to believe is much like  coyotespaw   Apr-30-09 04:56 AM   #22 
  - God and I have an understanding.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 08:45 PM   #42 
  - People can use the same words without meaning the same things  struggle4progress   Apr-30-09 05:59 AM   #23 
  - He was doing this religion conversion to be with you  Meshuga   Apr-30-09 06:32 AM   #24 
  - I'm beginning to wonder about that.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 08:47 PM   #43 
  - "If you ever believed, how did you stop believing in anything?"  PassingFair   Apr-30-09 07:39 AM   #25 
  - I mean that, for those who started out in a faith, how did they leave it?  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 08:48 PM   #44 
  - People go through the motions with a lot of things  Silent3   Apr-30-09 09:48 AM   #26 
  - To answer your question about how people can change religions  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-30-09 06:34 PM   #33 
  - We knew beforehand that we wanted to convert but waited for family.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 08:50 PM   #45 
  - As for "If you ever believed, how did you stop believing in anything?"  Silent3   Apr-30-09 10:21 AM   #27 
  - I never stopped believing. My faith  rrneck   Apr-30-09 10:37 AM   #28 
  - Bless you.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 08:53 PM   #46 
  - A lot of people just go through the motions  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-30-09 10:48 AM   #29 
  - "his long-term infidelity (six years' worth)"  ZombieHorde   Apr-30-09 12:41 PM   #30 
  - It's been rough.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 08:55 PM   #47 
  - To answer the specific question - it's a piece of the proverbial pie  dmallind   Apr-30-09 02:37 PM   #31 
  - For me, facts overwhelmed the fantasy.  stopbush   Apr-30-09 03:18 PM   #32 
  - Fear and guilt aren't as much of a faith thing for me, though.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 09:00 PM   #48 
     - I understand. The fear and guilt is a tool to keep some people  stopbush   May-01-09 12:16 PM   #56 
  - I'm very sorry to hear this, Knitter  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-30-09 06:43 PM   #34 
  - I am, thank goodness.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 09:01 PM   #49 
  - Do you think perhaps that both the infidelity and the loss of faith  JerseygirlCT   Apr-30-09 07:50 PM   #35 
  - And I do. It's just hard to see him as a totally different person now.  knitter4democracy   Apr-30-09 09:03 PM   #50 
     - I'm so sorry, Knitter... nt  JerseygirlCT   May-01-09 08:26 AM   #54 
  - Here's my belated attempt.  Igel   May-01-09 09:01 PM   #60 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-09 02:24 PM   #64 
  - I've never had faith, so I've never had anything to lose.  Evoman   May-04-09 02:20 PM   #65 
  - I stopped believing when I started thinking.  eomer   May-04-09 04:54 PM   #66 
  - I'm sorry this is happening, Knitter.  raccoon   May-06-09 08:43 AM   #67 
  - I'm sorry you're going thru such a hellish divorce, knitter.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-06-09 10:18 PM   #68 
  - Bless you.  knitter4democracy   May-07-09 09:21 PM   #69 
     - Thank you.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-09-09 04:47 AM   #72 
        - Then you know where I'm coming from.  knitter4democracy   May-09-09 10:13 AM   #73 
  - I came to the realization that I never really believed  EvolveOrConvolve   May-09-09 11:21 AM   #74 
  - I felt that my faith had not been of help to me in enabling me to deal with personal issues  MikeH   May-26-09 02:37 AM   #75 
     - Wow, Mike. Very well written account of your experience.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-26-09 07:57 PM   #76 

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC