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Fri May-01-09 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #50 |
| 54. I'm so sorry, Knitter... nt |
| -Honest question: How does someone pretend to have a faith he doesn't believe in? |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-29-09 11:19 PM |
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I was a medic for ten years |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-29-09 11:26 PM |
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I think that might be part of it for him, too. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-29-09 11:53 PM |
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Well I understand that, I used to feel something when going to temple |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-30-09 12:32 AM |
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Has it ever done you any good? |
HeresyLives |
Apr-29-09 11:27 PM |
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Personally, yes. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-29-09 11:51 PM |
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'God 'doesn't seem to have helped |
HeresyLives |
Apr-29-09 11:55 PM |
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And that's where we disagree. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-29-09 11:59 PM |
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You told yourself a fairytale. |
HeresyLives |
Apr-30-09 12:03 AM |
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Okay. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 12:16 AM |
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Hey, YOU asked the question. |
HeresyLives |
Apr-30-09 12:36 AM |
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Except that's not the question that was asked. It was the one you wanted to |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-30-09 07:54 PM |
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That wasn't what I asked, though. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 08:36 PM |
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It is. Absolutely. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-30-09 07:53 PM |
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She said in her OP that she wasn't interested in bashing of her faith. |
Quantess |
Apr-30-09 02:41 AM |
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You know, it surely sounds like you DO |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-30-09 07:53 PM |
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So you don't have any problems? |
Critters2 |
May-07-09 10:59 PM |
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That's some pretty sanctimonious bullshit right there. |
varkam |
May-01-09 10:56 PM |
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started thinking about what I believed, vs what I knew first-hand to be true. |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-29-09 11:27 PM |
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I used to believe in Santa Claus, but I don't any longer. One day I looked around and said to myself |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-29-09 11:34 PM |
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On Santa: Why does he give the rich kids nicer presents than he gives the poor kids? |
Towlie |
Apr-29-09 11:49 PM |
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I think this was my kids' last year for Santa, too. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-29-09 11:57 PM |
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I can only remember being a little kid and afraid not to believe |
Warpy |
Apr-29-09 11:57 PM |
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That makes sense. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 12:02 AM |
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Losing my faith was kind of a divorce for me. |
elshiva |
Apr-30-09 01:03 AM |
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Thank you so much for this. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 08:39 PM |
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Thank you, I love your posts, too. |
elshiva |
Apr-30-09 09:33 PM |
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I'm critical of a lot of those discussions, too. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 10:11 PM |
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Yes, I get understand that, as I said, I was a Religious Studies Major in college. |
elshiva |
Apr-30-09 10:58 PM |
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I would go off on her, just like I did that Focus on the Family PR chick. |
knitter4democracy |
May-01-09 01:57 PM |
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Thank you, again. |
elshiva |
May-01-09 09:49 PM |
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My church now is a lot better, though we still have a lot of work ahead. |
knitter4democracy |
May-02-09 08:21 AM |
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I have a very good friend who's converted to Orthodoxy, |
Critters2 |
May-07-09 11:16 PM |
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They can't extrapolate because they don't want to - it would |
JerseygirlCT |
May-01-09 08:32 AM |
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Amen to all of that. |
knitter4democracy |
May-01-09 01:58 PM |
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You know, I cannot remember who it was |
JerseygirlCT |
May-01-09 02:24 PM |
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Sorry you're going through the stress and crazy. |
Why Syzygy |
Apr-30-09 01:48 AM |
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first, allow me to offer my sympathies for the hurt you must be feeling in these very terrible days |
left is right |
Apr-30-09 01:52 AM |
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I think people get caught up in black and white with faith. |
napoleon_in_rags |
Apr-30-09 02:49 AM |
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That makes a huge amount of sense. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 08:43 PM |
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Pretending to believe is much like |
coyotespaw |
Apr-30-09 04:56 AM |
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God and I have an understanding. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 08:45 PM |
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People can use the same words without meaning the same things |
struggle4progress |
Apr-30-09 05:59 AM |
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He was doing this religion conversion to be with you |
Meshuga |
Apr-30-09 06:32 AM |
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I'm beginning to wonder about that. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 08:47 PM |
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"If you ever believed, how did you stop believing in anything?" |
PassingFair |
Apr-30-09 07:39 AM |
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I mean that, for those who started out in a faith, how did they leave it? |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 08:48 PM |
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People go through the motions with a lot of things |
Silent3 |
Apr-30-09 09:48 AM |
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To answer your question about how people can change religions |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-30-09 06:34 PM |
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We knew beforehand that we wanted to convert but waited for family. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 08:50 PM |
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As for "If you ever believed, how did you stop believing in anything?" |
Silent3 |
Apr-30-09 10:21 AM |
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I never stopped believing. My faith |
rrneck |
Apr-30-09 10:37 AM |
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Bless you. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 08:53 PM |
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A lot of people just go through the motions |
TechBear_Seattle |
Apr-30-09 10:48 AM |
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"his long-term infidelity (six years' worth)" |
ZombieHorde |
Apr-30-09 12:41 PM |
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It's been rough. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 08:55 PM |
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To answer the specific question - it's a piece of the proverbial pie |
dmallind |
Apr-30-09 02:37 PM |
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For me, facts overwhelmed the fantasy. |
stopbush |
Apr-30-09 03:18 PM |
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Fear and guilt aren't as much of a faith thing for me, though. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 09:00 PM |
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I understand. The fear and guilt is a tool to keep some people |
stopbush |
May-01-09 12:16 PM |
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I'm very sorry to hear this, Knitter |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-30-09 06:43 PM |
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I am, thank goodness. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 09:01 PM |
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Do you think perhaps that both the infidelity and the loss of faith |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-30-09 07:50 PM |
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And I do. It's just hard to see him as a totally different person now. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-30-09 09:03 PM |
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I'm so sorry, Knitter... nt |
JerseygirlCT |
May-01-09 08:26 AM |
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Here's my belated attempt. |
Igel |
May-01-09 09:01 PM |
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May-02-09 02:24 PM |
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I've never had faith, so I've never had anything to lose. |
Evoman |
May-04-09 02:20 PM |
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I stopped believing when I started thinking. |
eomer |
May-04-09 04:54 PM |
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I'm sorry this is happening, Knitter. |
raccoon |
May-06-09 08:43 AM |
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I'm sorry you're going thru such a hellish divorce, knitter. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
May-06-09 10:18 PM |
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Bless you. |
knitter4democracy |
May-07-09 09:21 PM |
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Thank you. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
May-09-09 04:47 AM |
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Then you know where I'm coming from. |
knitter4democracy |
May-09-09 10:13 AM |
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I came to the realization that I never really believed |
EvolveOrConvolve |
May-09-09 11:21 AM |
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I felt that my faith had not been of help to me in enabling me to deal with personal issues |
MikeH |
May-26-09 02:37 AM |
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Wow, Mike. Very well written account of your experience. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
May-26-09 07:57 PM |
#76 |
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