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Reply #34: THanks much for the Catholic insight. In sharing spirit, here's quotes I'd wish were in the OP [View All]

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Land Shark (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Apr-11-09 10:03 PM
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34. THanks much for the Catholic insight. In sharing spirit, here's quotes I'd wish were in the OP
Edited on Sat Apr-11-09 10:05 PM by Land Shark
There's quite a decent diversity of backgrounds here it seems, especially adding Joe Chi Minh's and other contributions above. If I have by chance included one or more that some disrespect, then I have succeeded more than I reasonably hoped for! :)

“Words are just words, and without heart they have no meaning.”
--Chinese Proverb

“Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you.”
–Carlos Castaneda, author of “The Teachings of Don Juan” concerning Mesoamerican shamanism

“We know the truth, not only by the reason, but also by the heart.”


--Blaise Pascal – French 17th Century mathematician, physicist, philosopher, inventor, theologian, prose stylist and polemicist, (1) first achieving fame at the age of 16 with a contribution to the projective geometry of a cone, including “Pascal’s Theorem” (2) the original development of probability theory, the basis of statistics, together with Fermat (3) work on barometric air pressure varying by altitude above sea level (4) credit given by Leibniz to Blaise Pascal’s method for infinitesimal analysis as the inspiration for Leibniz’s development of calculus.

“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”
--Matthew 6: 21 ESV

“That which is spoken from the heart is heard by the heart.”
–Jewish Saying

“Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”
--1 Samuel 16: 76

“The heart of the matter is a matter of heart.”
--Rick Warren “The Purpose-Driven Life” (modern evangelical work)
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  Getting to the Heart of the Matter - What would an Autopsy on the Death of Jesus Show? Land Shark  Apr-11-09 05:15 AM   #0 
   Well, do it fast. He's rising any minute.  aquart   Apr-11-09 05:16 AM   #1 
   It happened long ago. Or, do you have a specific suggestion? nt  2 Much Tribulation   Apr-11-09 05:27 AM   #2 
   Find A Corpse First...  KharmaTrain   Apr-11-09 05:50 AM   #3 
   It doesn't seem that the OP is really invested in proving historical existence....  2 Much Tribulation   Apr-11-09 07:06 AM   #4 
      About As Solid As A Fact???  KharmaTrain   Apr-11-09 07:49 AM   #6 
         The point of the OP is simply that Heart Failure would be the cause of death and further that  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 07:57 AM   #8 
   Fascinating responses so far; kind of proving the great IMPACT this subject has on many  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 07:12 AM   #5 
   As a spiritualist who doen't really feel aligned to Christianity though I was raised as one,  stellanoir   Apr-11-09 07:57 AM   #7 
   Thanks for the lovely holiday wish, and indeed will take kids on easter egg hunt here in 2 hours...  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 08:01 AM   #9 
      Well the significance of the heart is rather huge and perhaps is best represented  stellanoir   Apr-11-09 08:35 AM   #10 
         I agree with you about the incidence of hypocrisy, but in fairness, the intent of the OP  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 09:25 AM   #11 
            Ohhh  stellanoir   Apr-11-09 11:12 AM   #15 
            I will have nothing to do with a cross either.  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-12-09 03:36 AM   #35 
               There's always been a major distinction between the Constantine church and Christianity (for many)  2 Much Tribulation   Apr-13-09 10:39 PM   #52 
            I appreciate your  rrneck   Apr-11-09 01:46 PM   #21 
               Thanks for the note of appreciation for the interesting thoughts, buuuutttt....  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 05:22 PM   #23 
                  My training is not in  rrneck   Apr-11-09 07:20 PM   #28 
                     Seems like one of those baby out w/ the bathwater issues, and I'm not denying existence of bathwater  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 08:02 PM   #29 
   Nominated.  H2O Man   Apr-11-09 10:17 AM   #12 
   I really appreciate what you wrote here.  FedUpWithIt All   Apr-11-09 11:55 AM   #19 
      Thank you.  H2O Man   Apr-11-09 08:23 PM   #30 
   First, I wouild like to see ANY contemporary evidence that Jesus even existed.  Pale Blue Dot   Apr-11-09 10:21 AM   #13 
   Is that the final answer? : ) Or perhaps some audience help on this question?  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 11:32 AM   #17 
   Is that the final answer  ultrarunner   Apr-11-09 08:39 PM   #31 
   Thanks for the historical information. Of course, the "authorized biography"  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 09:08 PM   #32 
   All after the fact hearsay...  Deep13   Apr-13-09 10:30 AM   #44 
   Look at those dates....  dmallind   Apr-27-09 07:34 PM   #60 
   Nothing important turns on the existence of Socrates.  Deep13   Apr-13-09 10:24 AM   #43 
   Do I sense a PREdisposition NOT to believe whatever evidence any ingenous Christian  Joe Chi Minh   Apr-11-09 07:20 PM   #27 
   Charles van Onselen wrote a 650 pp book about a S. African sharecropper.There was one written record  HamdenRice   Apr-12-09 09:52 AM   #37 
      Fair enough, but what if the SA Sharecropper could bring people back to life and led a revolution.  Evoman   Apr-13-09 12:50 PM   #47 
      I should have mentioned that Kas was a famous "ngaka" or witch doctor  HamdenRice   Apr-13-09 01:25 PM   #48 
      That's what I meant when I said historicity not "fairly debatable"; still enormous room 4 doubters  2 Much Tribulation   Apr-13-09 10:27 PM   #50 
   We can rule out Death By Chocolate.  TexasObserver   Apr-11-09 10:24 AM   #14 
   the egg hunt was/is for kids only, but dangers of chocolate apply to other family members! ;) nt  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 11:23 AM   #16 
   Peace and love to your family.  FedUpWithIt All   Apr-11-09 11:53 AM   #18 
   Thanks for your message, and your autosig, which I appreciate a lot as well! nt  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 12:06 PM   #20 
   No body, no crime. n/t  DCKit   Apr-11-09 02:07 PM   #22 
   Jimmy Hoffa, no body, no crime, eh? n/t  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 05:24 PM   #24 
   Flour? Yeast? A refreshing merlot?  laconicsax   Apr-11-09 06:48 PM   #25 
   It's your choice, freedom of conscience is absolute. Choose the best! nt  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 09:20 PM   #33 
   Anything you can imagine I am sure..nt  and-justice-for-all   Apr-13-09 06:36 AM   #40 
   A wonderful post, Paul, but the Catholic Church does indeed have a particular devotion precisely to  Joe Chi Minh   Apr-11-09 07:17 PM   #26 
   THanks much for the Catholic insight. In sharing spirit, here's quotes I'd wish were in the OP  Land Shark   Apr-11-09 10:03 PM   #34 
      Thanks, Paul. Some great sayings there. I believe it was Pascal who said  Joe Chi Minh   Apr-12-09 07:32 AM   #36 
         Yes, that was Blaise Pascal. nt  Land Shark   Apr-12-09 11:39 PM   #38 
   USA Poll released today: 88% said "Jesus Christ actually walked the Earth 2000 years ago"  Land Shark   Apr-12-09 11:45 PM   #39 
   "That is not really even debatable."  Deep13   Apr-13-09 10:19 AM   #42 
      I should have said "fairly debatable" if I didn't in the original reply  Land Shark   Apr-13-09 12:44 PM   #46 
   When I was a Christian...  Deep13   Apr-13-09 09:15 AM   #41 
   A close reading of the OP may conclude I'm not focused on crucifixion in quite sense u object to  Land Shark   Apr-13-09 12:36 PM   #45 
      Facts can prove a negative.  Deep13   Apr-13-09 01:59 PM   #49 
         Therefore, it's absolutely certain that no intelligent extraterrestrial life exists? nt  2 Much Tribulation   Apr-13-09 10:31 PM   #51 
         The facts don't support that conclusion.  Deep13   Apr-14-09 08:55 AM   #54 
         What facts prove this negative, then? nt  Land Shark   Apr-14-09 07:19 AM   #53 
            I've gone over this before.  Deep13   Apr-14-09 08:59 AM   #55 
               Let the record reflect you believe in intelligent extraterrestrials but not even a human named Jesus  Land Shark   Apr-14-09 12:47 PM   #56 
                  You have no eyewitness accounts and I never said ET has been here.  Deep13   Apr-14-09 01:30 PM   #57 
                     Jefferson razor bladed the Bible to get only Jesus' words, and said "this I believe"  Land Shark   Apr-14-09 04:01 PM   #58 
                        "...least as strong evidence for the existence of God..."  Deep13   Apr-14-09 11:14 PM   #59 
   What's the point?? This is sick and perverted.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-06-09 11:25 PM   #61 
   The phrase "Judgment is mine" sayeth the Lord, comes to mind... Echoed secularly by Paine... nt  2 Much Tribulation   Jun-04-09 09:02 AM   #62 
 

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