| 160. No, you can still try to describe the indescribable |
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and in general, proselytizers who try to argue people into conversion don't get very far, not unless their target is vulnerable somehow. Badgering works mostly in cult situations, where the target is kept isolated, sleep-deprived, and malnourished.
The adult converts that I know all had a predisposition toward religious experience and went in search of a spiritual home. Eventually they found one that fit.
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| -Are We To Respect A Person's Beliefs, Or Only Their Right To Believe? |
stopbush |
Apr-01-09 04:08 PM |
#0 |
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Last time I check in this country, we can 'Believe' anything we want. |
rd_kent |
Apr-01-09 04:13 PM |
#1 |
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But, could you be more of a DICK about it? |
CBGLuthier |
Apr-01-09 04:19 PM |
#6 |
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Stop legislating your morality and they'll probably stop "being dicks about it". |
MercutioATC |
Apr-01-09 04:26 PM |
#13 |
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I don't legislate dick. since the election, it will be even less possible. |
roguevalley |
Apr-02-09 03:56 PM |
#136 |
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Haven't atheists legislated their morality? |
timtom |
Apr-04-09 06:16 AM |
#203 |
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Yes. It's called The Constitution. |
stopbush |
Apr-06-09 11:42 AM |
#206 |
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Explain what you mean. |
Deep13 |
Apr-01-09 04:33 PM |
#20 |
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Ever have you son lose his best friend because dad was dick |
HelenWheels |
Apr-01-09 04:51 PM |
#37 |
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Yes. |
Deep13 |
Apr-01-09 04:54 PM |
#42 |
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omg..that is horrible. what ignorance! |
krabigirl |
Apr-01-09 05:16 PM |
#55 |
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Yes, we atheists are supposed to act nice and understanding |
stopbush |
Apr-01-09 04:59 PM |
#45 |
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That's my understanding of it. |
Deep13 |
Apr-01-09 05:22 PM |
#60 |
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No, but there's a difference between telling Mormons and JW's who |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-01-09 05:37 PM |
#71 |
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I'd say there's no difference between telling them not to bother you |
stopbush |
Apr-01-09 11:41 PM |
#97 |
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I've never seen it happen in real life, but the equivalent action |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-03-09 10:03 AM |
#175 |
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In debate, I like to distinguish argument from intuition. |
stopbush |
Apr-03-09 02:18 PM |
#176 |
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You really believe that? |
Marr |
Apr-01-09 05:43 PM |
#76 |
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I call bullshit on your story |
demwing |
Apr-01-09 07:33 PM |
#81 |
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I call bullshit on your bullshit. |
PassingFair |
Apr-02-09 08:06 AM |
#105 |
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Wow. Go figure. It's a Religion/Theology forum |
demwing |
Apr-02-09 11:28 AM |
#119 |
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I am into discussion. |
PassingFair |
Apr-02-09 08:26 PM |
#155 |
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Perhaps you should ask the Mormons: I think there have been a number here who |
struggle4progress |
Apr-09-09 10:01 PM |
#213 |
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Would being a "dick" about it include knocking on your door |
rd_kent |
Apr-06-09 07:45 PM |
#211 |
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So much for basic courtessy; "agree to disagree"? |
Deja Q |
Apr-01-09 04:29 PM |
#16 |
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Can you name one POSITIVE sterotype that the religious hold |
stopbush |
Apr-01-09 05:01 PM |
#47 |
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I know better than to stereotype the non-religious |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-01-09 05:39 PM |
#73 |
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Agree with Lydia.... |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-02-09 01:53 PM |
#129 |
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Are there any stereotypes that are worth holding? |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-01-09 09:10 PM |
#91 |
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If respect means "Don't get in their face about it" then maybe it's okay. |
FiveGoodMen |
Apr-01-09 04:15 PM |
#2 |
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This probably stems from the proselytizing stance of so many religions. |
arbusto_baboso |
Apr-01-09 04:20 PM |
#8 |
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I completely agree |
ihavenobias |
Apr-01-09 04:26 PM |
#12 |
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There's nothing at all disrespectful about saying you don't think |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-01-09 08:14 PM |
#85 |
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I would never call a religious person (and I'm related to some) and idiot... |
PassingFair |
Apr-02-09 08:13 AM |
#106 |
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I think either is rude, to be honest |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 08:29 AM |
#107 |
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I have a friend who believes in tarot readings and crystal ball fortunes. |
PassingFair |
Apr-02-09 09:04 AM |
#112 |
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The point is that your opinion about what she believes is |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 12:51 PM |
#123 |
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Why do you say that there's no point in sharing your thoughts |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 01:50 PM |
#128 |
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Do you realize what you sound like? |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 02:54 PM |
#135 |
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I calls 'em like I sees 'em. |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 04:15 PM |
#137 |
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What if the person isn't interested in having that conversation with you? |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 04:17 PM |
#138 |
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No, I wouldn't have the conversation with them. |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 04:29 PM |
#139 |
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I grew up in Little Silver... |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-02-09 06:52 PM |
#147 |
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Right around my neck of the woods, too! |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 07:07 PM |
#151 |
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Well, I now live in OC, CA, 6 miles from the ocean. I missed the Jersey beach but the ones in SoCal |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 10:59 PM |
#162 |
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They really don't know from beaches here in CT |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 02:23 PM |
#177 |
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I grew up in Eatontown |
Meshuga |
Apr-02-09 08:35 PM |
#156 |
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This is too funny! |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 08:56 PM |
#157 |
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Funny indeed |
Meshuga |
Apr-02-09 09:28 PM |
#158 |
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I worked in Oakhurst right on Rt 35. |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 10:57 PM |
#161 |
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35 and 36 are the main veins for us there |
Meshuga |
Apr-03-09 06:39 AM |
#171 |
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Atilos! Man, I loved that place. Best pizza one could find outside of NYC. |
stopbush |
Apr-03-09 09:51 AM |
#174 |
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"Hey, is Strollo's still in biz over by the state beach?" |
Meshuga |
Apr-03-09 02:59 PM |
#184 |
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Cluck U! |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 02:24 PM |
#178 |
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I was surprised to find a franchise down here in MD |
Meshuga |
Apr-03-09 03:03 PM |
#186 |
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Like Jersey Mike's? |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 03:15 PM |
#187 |
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That's a shame |
Meshuga |
Apr-03-09 03:45 PM |
#189 |
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I know - what are you supposed to do at 3 am? nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 04:44 PM |
#191 |
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Wow... |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-03-09 04:42 AM |
#169 |
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Good old Monmouth Mall! |
Meshuga |
Apr-03-09 06:23 AM |
#170 |
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Many of us feel that religion does much harm in society. |
FiveGoodMen |
Apr-02-09 06:12 PM |
#143 |
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I would imagine we all have the same side in that fight. |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 07:16 PM |
#153 |
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BTW, JerseyGirl, where do you stand on |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 04:34 PM |
#140 |
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I can answer for myself (in lieu of Jersey Girl) |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-02-09 06:57 PM |
#148 |
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Oh good grief, no! |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 07:11 PM |
#152 |
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I can't resist, so here goes: |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 11:07 PM |
#163 |
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And the liberal Christians who hang here take crap from all sides |
Meshuga |
Apr-03-09 07:08 AM |
#172 |
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Let me be clear - I believe moderate Christians hold beliefs that are just as fantasy-based |
stopbush |
Apr-03-09 09:46 AM |
#173 |
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Ok, one at a time: |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 02:33 PM |
#181 |
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So basically, you have an interpretation of Christianity that suits you, |
stopbush |
Apr-03-09 04:58 PM |
#192 |
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Let me try this again |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 07:08 PM |
#195 |
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The cherry picking began with the Pharisees, |
Meshuga |
Apr-03-09 08:43 PM |
#197 |
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Thanks for the response. Let me try again. |
stopbush |
Apr-03-09 08:57 PM |
#198 |
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Part of where we might be missing one another here |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 09:06 PM |
#199 |
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Yes. I view Mark's Gospel as an allegorical fiction, not as a history. |
stopbush |
Apr-03-09 09:27 PM |
#200 |
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Of course one is still a "religionist" |
Meshuga |
Apr-03-09 02:51 PM |
#183 |
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Well said |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 03:21 PM |
#188 |
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And there is also the fact that your religion |
Meshuga |
Apr-03-09 03:59 PM |
#190 |
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I don't know what a "fundamentalist atheist" is, |
stopbush |
Apr-03-09 05:06 PM |
#193 |
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I don't know what a "fundamentalist atheist" is either |
Meshuga |
Apr-03-09 08:18 PM |
#196 |
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Thanks, Meshuga. That's about the size of it. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 02:27 PM |
#180 |
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Sure I do |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 02:26 PM |
#179 |
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If I feel so disrespectful of a viewpoint that I say nothing this means I feel sorry for them. |
heidler1 |
Apr-02-09 06:44 PM |
#145 |
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I really don't care what a person believes |
nichomachus |
Apr-01-09 04:15 PM |
#3 |
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Let me ask you a question, Nichomachus. |
timtom |
Apr-04-09 06:36 AM |
#204 |
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You ask, "What is the atheist's moral authority?" |
stopbush |
Apr-06-09 02:59 PM |
#207 |
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Well stated.... |
WCGreen |
Apr-01-09 04:17 PM |
#4 |
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The Flying Spaghetti Monster guided your hands while you were typing that |
B o d i |
Apr-01-09 04:18 PM |
#5 |
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Good post. |
DavidDvorkin |
Apr-01-09 04:20 PM |
#7 |
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No one should think anyone has a duty to respect their beliefs. |
TexasObserver |
Apr-01-09 04:23 PM |
#9 |
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yup yup |
annabanana |
Apr-01-09 04:58 PM |
#44 |
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"your make believe friend" |
Matariki |
Apr-01-09 04:24 PM |
#10 |
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Point taken, except that many religious folks mock those of other religions |
ihavenobias |
Apr-01-09 04:28 PM |
#15 |
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Because without proof, it's make-beleive. |
rd_kent |
Apr-06-09 07:54 PM |
#212 |
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I have said for years, I respect the right, not the belief |
bread_and_roses |
Apr-01-09 04:24 PM |
#11 |
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your "beliefs" fine, your implentation of those "beliefs", maybe NOT nt |
msongs |
Apr-01-09 04:27 PM |
#14 |
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I agree with you. |
timtom |
Apr-04-09 06:40 AM |
#205 |
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Are you saying that the man Bonhoeffer absent his religous beliefs |
stopbush |
Apr-06-09 03:06 PM |
#208 |
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Only the right to believe |
slackmaster |
Apr-01-09 04:30 PM |
#17 |
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You're missing a component. |
yewberry |
Apr-01-09 04:31 PM |
#18 |
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Someone else's beliefs are not open to debate? |
Lex |
Apr-01-09 04:34 PM |
#22 |
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Ummm, yes. |
yewberry |
Apr-01-09 04:39 PM |
#26 |
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Not buying it. |
ihavenobias |
Apr-01-09 04:41 PM |
#27 |
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I think I've not explained myself clearly. |
yewberry |
Apr-01-09 04:49 PM |
#36 |
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Beliefs on abortion and freedom are meaningful and real to people as well. |
ihavenobias |
Apr-01-09 04:52 PM |
#40 |
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Beliefs re: abortion or freedom do not play the role of faith. |
yewberry |
Apr-01-09 05:10 PM |
#51 |
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Why is religious faith not an opinion? |
stopbush |
Apr-01-09 06:59 PM |
#80 |
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Because "faith" in this context is fundamental |
yewberry |
Apr-02-09 12:46 AM |
#101 |
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Then I'm being disrespectful, because I strenuously question the having of faith - |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 01:01 AM |
#102 |
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If I read you correctly |
ironbark |
Apr-02-09 05:07 AM |
#103 |
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Yes, faith is so fundamental to a person's understanding of self |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 11:50 PM |
#166 |
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"...Not open to debate..." |
ihavenobias |
Apr-01-09 04:36 PM |
#23 |
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Those are opinions, not religious belief. |
yewberry |
Apr-01-09 04:44 PM |
#29 |
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Telling people they can't question is not respectful IMO. |
ihavenobias |
Apr-01-09 04:45 PM |
#31 |
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I disagree. I believe that all beliefs - especially if they are unproven - are |
stopbush |
Apr-01-09 04:44 PM |
#30 |
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Basic miscommunication |
yewberry |
Apr-01-09 05:01 PM |
#46 |
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Except for the fact that a lot of people accept falsehoods and resist facts because of that faith |
ihavenobias |
Apr-01-09 05:20 PM |
#56 |
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That's true, |
yewberry |
Apr-01-09 05:30 PM |
# |
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I think maybe you're overestimating the value of faith. |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 12:02 AM |
#98 |
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If they were proven (or able to be so), they'd cease to be "beliefs" nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-01-09 09:12 PM |
#92 |
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Yes. They would then be called science. |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 11:51 PM |
#167 |
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I don't think that was missed in the OP. |
ColbertWatcher |
Apr-01-09 04:48 PM |
#34 |
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Nobody has a guaranteed right to politeness |
WeDidIt |
Apr-01-09 05:37 PM |
#70 |
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Until they are intentionally rude, they have a right to civility. |
Igel |
Apr-01-09 08:27 PM |
#88 |
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I agree until the debate part |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-01-09 08:16 PM |
#86 |
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Exactly. I also respect people's right to say things, even if I disagree |
Lex |
Apr-01-09 04:32 PM |
#19 |
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Basically, people need to mind their own business. |
AndyA |
Apr-01-09 04:34 PM |
#21 |
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Not at all. The only time I go for atheists is when they force their opinions |
Joe Chi Minh |
Apr-01-09 04:36 PM |
#24 |
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Religion is expressed and imposed upon us everywhere. |
Deep13 |
Apr-01-09 04:52 PM |
#39 |
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Too far apart for us to meaningfully discuss. |
Joe Chi Minh |
Apr-01-09 05:04 PM |
#49 |
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sorry |
Deep13 |
Apr-01-09 05:20 PM |
#57 |
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It's pretty clear that you haven't a clue who 'most' of the |
enlightenment |
Apr-01-09 05:30 PM |
#64 |
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I liked your headline |
Lerkfish |
Apr-01-09 04:38 PM |
#25 |
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I can't choose what to respect or what not to. |
Deep13 |
Apr-01-09 04:42 PM |
#28 |
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Is respect an emotion |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-01-09 05:21 PM |
#58 |
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I think subjectively it is a mix of emotion and thought. |
Deep13 |
Apr-01-09 05:37 PM |
#72 |
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I'm glad you rebuilt your relationship with your mother... |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-02-09 02:07 PM |
#130 |
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Beautifully said |
Meshuga |
Apr-01-09 07:39 PM |
#83 |
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Complicated question. I used to believe that I had no obligation to respect anyone else's |
Mike 03 |
Apr-01-09 04:47 PM |
#32 |
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Very good approach! |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-01-09 05:40 PM |
#75 |
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That works |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 08:57 AM |
#109 |
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I think that it's important to point out here |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-02-09 02:10 PM |
#131 |
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Oh absolutely! |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 02:47 PM |
#133 |
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One can disagree without being disagreeable. |
Seeking Serenity |
Apr-01-09 04:48 PM |
#33 |
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Absolutely. I didn't think that was such a difficult concept |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 08:59 AM |
#111 |
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Love the believer, mock the beliefs. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-01-09 04:48 PM |
#35 |
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Oh yes |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 08:58 AM |
#110 |
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You know I love you! But I mock christianity all the freakin time. |
Evoman |
Apr-02-09 09:51 AM |
#115 |
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You are just in a category all by yourself. |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 12:53 PM |
#124 |
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The only thing that people seem to find ruder than questioning religion is questioning the cuteness |
Evoman |
Apr-01-09 04:51 PM |
#38 |
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It is the rare newborn that is cute - but you too, Evo, would |
enlightenment |
Apr-01-09 05:40 PM |
#74 |
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There's always that gray area where parity breaks down. |
immoderate |
Apr-01-09 04:54 PM |
#41 |
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The latter -unless they shove it down my throat and/or act persecuted |
liberalsince1968 |
Apr-01-09 04:56 PM |
#43 |
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"'Conspiracy stuff' is now shorthand for unspeakable truth." - Gore Vidal |
Echo In Light |
Apr-01-09 05:01 PM |
#48 |
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Only their right to believe. |
Arugula Latte |
Apr-01-09 05:08 PM |
#50 |
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You don't need to respect anything you don't want to |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-01-09 05:14 PM |
#52 |
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"An (if) it harm none, do as thou wilt." |
MorningGlow |
Apr-01-09 05:15 PM |
#53 |
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One bone to pick |
ihavenobias |
Apr-01-09 05:23 PM |
#61 |
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You're right--that was an accidental omission on my part |
MorningGlow |
Apr-01-09 05:28 PM |
#63 |
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Oh, ok |
ihavenobias |
Apr-01-09 05:30 PM |
#65 |
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They have a right to believe in what they want. I have a right to mock it. |
AndrewP |
Apr-01-09 05:15 PM |
#54 |
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What if name-calling leads to real violence? |
Echo In Light |
Apr-01-09 05:22 PM |
#59 |
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then whoever started the violence is/should be in some deep shit n/t |
Scout |
Apr-01-09 05:32 PM |
#67 |
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It gets tricky tho. Internet forum "reality" doesn't have the same potential for violent consequence |
Echo In Light |
Apr-01-09 05:58 PM |
#77 |
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There are some control freaks on this board who |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-01-09 05:28 PM |
#62 |
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Well put, LL |
MorningGlow |
Apr-01-09 05:30 PM |
#66 |
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Well reasoned post. Kudos |
Echo In Light |
Apr-01-09 06:46 PM |
#79 |
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Excellent. Well said. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-01-09 08:26 PM |
#87 |
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Funny how you term vocal atheists "control freaks" |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 12:59 PM |
#125 |
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You are speaking in extraordinarily |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-02-09 02:14 PM |
#132 |
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My post first addresses specifics from LL's post |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 02:51 PM |
#134 |
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Why should there be a |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-02-09 06:49 PM |
#146 |
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I agree |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-02-09 07:19 PM |
#154 |
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I find it amusing that you or any other Christian would feel the least bit of |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 11:23 PM |
#165 |
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I'm interested in just where you think |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 02:37 PM |
#182 |
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Here ya go: |
stopbush |
Apr-06-09 04:57 PM |
#210 |
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This seems to be the main mantra |
skepticscott |
Apr-02-09 05:42 PM |
#142 |
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Perhaps.... |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-02-09 06:59 PM |
#149 |
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It's pretty fucking hard to respect some beliefs |
WeDidIt |
Apr-01-09 05:35 PM |
#68 |
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Sam Harris on conversational intolerance of religion |
HarveyDarkey |
Apr-01-09 05:36 PM |
#69 |
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I don't respect ANY religious belief |
cosmik debris |
Apr-01-09 06:14 PM |
#78 |
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Respect the person....and their beliefs. |
Sal316 |
Apr-01-09 07:38 PM |
#82 |
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What if showing respect is self-defeating for you? |
Silent3 |
Apr-01-09 08:41 PM |
#89 |
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I didn't say you had to agree with them.... |
Sal316 |
Apr-02-09 12:28 AM |
#100 |
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I don't go out of my way to either validate or invalidate... |
Silent3 |
Apr-02-09 06:45 AM |
#104 |
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I think you, and everyone, ought to respect others. You do not |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-01-09 08:12 PM |
#84 |
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I think we should respect a person's right to believe, but I also think a part of that... |
varkam |
Apr-01-09 08:43 PM |
#90 |
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Are We To Respect Atheists Lack of Belief, Or Only The Right Of Some To Behave Like Assholes? |
kwassa |
Apr-01-09 09:21 PM |
#93 |
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Well that added a lot to the conversation. |
Goblinmonger |
Apr-02-09 09:09 AM |
#113 |
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Is there a difference for you between disrespecting ideas and disrespecting people? |
Evoman |
Apr-02-09 09:46 AM |
#114 |
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I've said many times: Faith is experiential, not intellectual |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-02-09 05:42 PM |
#141 |
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So if faith has no intellectual component |
skepticscott |
Apr-02-09 09:51 PM |
#159 |
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No, you can still try to describe the indescribable |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-02-09 10:22 PM |
#160 |
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"...describe the indescribable..." |
rrneck |
Apr-03-09 01:11 AM |
#168 |
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If that really were the case |
skepticscott |
Apr-03-09 06:08 PM |
#194 |
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I've gone on record as saying that one of the few advantages of religion is the fellowship. |
Evoman |
Apr-02-09 11:20 PM |
#164 |
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I'm sure the Branch Davidians |
skepticscott |
Apr-04-09 06:11 AM |
#201 |
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I'm all up for fellowship until somebody asks me to cut off my balls,. |
Evoman |
Apr-06-09 04:40 PM |
#209 |
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Obviously, no one is "required" to respect another's beliefs. |
Beregond2 |
Apr-01-09 09:25 PM |
#94 |
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Much of what you call faith sounds just like "clinging to a rock in the middle of a raging river" |
muriel_volestrangler |
Apr-04-09 06:11 AM |
#202 |
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I'll respect people's right to believe whatever they like |
Rob H. |
Apr-01-09 09:26 PM |
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Respect the right to believe and leave it there. |
laconicsax |
Apr-01-09 10:41 PM |
#96 |
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It depends |
rrneck |
Apr-02-09 12:07 AM |
#99 |
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I respect people's right to believe until the time that those beliefs harm others. |
Marrah_G |
Apr-02-09 08:35 AM |
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It's that kind of piss poor, narrow-minded attitude... |
Silent3 |
Apr-02-09 10:11 AM |
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The Volcano GodESS will just have to get over it then ! |
Marrah_G |
Apr-02-09 12:01 PM |
#121 |
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Considering how volcanos love to erupt and spew all over the face... |
Silent3 |
Apr-02-09 12:42 PM |
#122 |
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............... |
Marrah_G |
Apr-02-09 01:04 PM |
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At what point does one decide harm has been committed? |
stopbush |
Apr-02-09 10:29 AM |
#117 |
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And that is why I have no respect for the BSA |
Marrah_G |
Apr-02-09 12:00 PM |
#120 |
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I see absolutely no reason to respect anyone's faith |
Neo Atheist |
Apr-02-09 10:40 AM |
#118 |
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Respect both at a funeral, respect neither on a religious debate board. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Apr-02-09 01:21 PM |
#127 |
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Well said! |
FiveGoodMen |
Apr-02-09 06:14 PM |
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Well... that is a good point.... |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-02-09 07:01 PM |
#150 |
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There are quite a few beliefs out there I have zero respect for |
Warpy |
Apr-03-09 03:02 PM |
#185 |