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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 04:16 PM
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7. Welcome to D.U. JustCommonSense.
I recognize one error in my post, I stated the minister "knew" exactly what he was doing, this was and is only my belief.

:hi:

Peace to you.
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  -The Problem With Demonizing the Word "Faith" Is In Giving Up Your Own Power Uncle Joe  Mar-31-09 03:27 PM   #0 
  - Oh, you were doing so well until you got to this:  Warpy   Mar-31-09 03:37 PM   #1 
  - Exactly - it's like saying that atheists are making a calculated gamble  Hugabear   Mar-31-09 03:45 PM   #2 
  - See: Pascal's Wager, and  Sinistrous   Mar-31-09 04:03 PM   #3 
  - Everybody makes calculated gambles everyday of their life.  Uncle Joe   Mar-31-09 04:10 PM   #6 
  - Do you realize the horrible equivocation of the word "faith" you're performing?  trotsky   Mar-31-09 04:43 PM   #16 
     - Not I, my belief is that was the minister's motivation on the link of the O.P.  Uncle Joe   Mar-31-09 05:21 PM   #19 
  - Nope  JustCommonSense   Mar-31-09 04:21 PM   #8 
  - "Anything believed"  Uncle Joe   Mar-31-09 04:06 PM   #4 
  - "faith" debate  JustCommonSense   Mar-31-09 04:09 PM   #5 
  - Welcome to D.U. JustCommonSense.  Uncle Joe   Mar-31-09 04:16 PM   #7 
  - Thanks - and peace to you as well.  JustCommonSense   Mar-31-09 04:30 PM   #9 
     - No my feelings are the same, welcome.  Uncle Joe   Mar-31-09 04:35 PM   #12 
     - Welcome to DU!  ayeshahaqqiqa   Mar-31-09 04:37 PM   #13 
  - Peace be with you  ayeshahaqqiqa   Mar-31-09 04:35 PM   #11 
  - Reasonable argument  ayeshahaqqiqa   Mar-31-09 04:32 PM   #10 
  - My belief is that I know nothing.  Uncle Joe   Mar-31-09 04:39 PM   #15 
     - I share your belief Uncle Joe  ironbark   Apr-01-09 07:16 AM   #28 
        - Ditto bro!  JustCommonSense   Apr-01-09 12:57 PM   #31 
  - Do you believe in Luke Skywalker?  Meshuga   Mar-31-09 04:39 PM   #14 
  - Do you believe science or physics has reached it's total culmination  Uncle Joe   Mar-31-09 05:12 PM   #18 
     - I don't believe that science or physics has reached its total culmination  Meshuga   Mar-31-09 07:51 PM   #22 
  - You may wish to research the difference between "strong" and "weak" atheism  TechBear_Seattle   Mar-31-09 04:53 PM   #17 
  - I believe, it's not possible to "not believe" without believing.  Uncle Joe   Mar-31-09 05:25 PM   #20 
     - You're describing your own limitation  Warpy   Mar-31-09 10:48 PM   #24 
     - That is stated very clearly Uncle Joe.  cambie   Mar-31-09 11:59 PM   #25 
     - Is there no difference between believing you believe something and believing in God, for example?  BurtWorm   Apr-02-09 09:57 AM   #50 
     - There is a qualitative difference of degree but they're essentially the same.  Uncle Joe   Apr-02-09 03:18 PM   #51 
        - You might think of the basic sort of faith you're talking about as an evolutionary adaptation.  BurtWorm   Apr-03-09 10:11 AM   #58 
           - Per my post #57, I don't view that sign as an affirmation of faith so much as a lack of it.  Uncle Joe   Apr-03-09 10:34 AM   #59 
              - But there are many people--more and more, in fact--who are living without faith in a creator.  BurtWorm   Apr-03-09 11:01 AM   #60 
                 - Throughout human history, belief in religious/spiritual matters have run through cycles,  Uncle Joe   Apr-03-09 11:37 AM   #61 
     - Until you're capable  skepticscott   Apr-02-09 05:05 PM   #54 
  - I don't associate any "power" with the word "faith" that I mind giving up.  Silent3   Mar-31-09 07:45 PM   #21 
  - You're an intelligent person and as such I wouldn't expect you  Uncle Joe   Apr-01-09 03:06 PM   #40 
     - There's no power in the word "faith" if you make it so bland...  Silent3   Apr-02-09 09:27 AM   #49 
        - If you don't view your atheism as a form of faith, I'm not suggesting you should use  Uncle Joe   Apr-02-09 04:08 PM   #52 
           - As long as we aren't in the realm of floating, shifting definitions of the word...  Silent3   Apr-02-09 04:31 PM   #53 
              - The problem is, religion evolves, but it always monopolizes the word "faith"  Uncle Joe   Apr-02-09 05:39 PM   #55 
  - I think there are inherent problems  rrneck   Mar-31-09 09:07 PM   #23 
  - I agree with your ideals, rmeck.  Uncle Joe   Apr-01-09 02:46 PM   #37 
     - I agree.  rrneck   Apr-01-09 11:28 PM   #48 
  - One needs to distinguish faith from blind faith.  Odin2005   Apr-01-09 12:29 AM   #26 
  - I agree to an extent, Odin but I believe the minister posting that message on his marquee  Uncle Joe   Apr-01-09 02:10 PM   #33 
  - All this nitpicking about a stupid word. Who the fuck cares...all I know is that I have no belief in  Evoman   Apr-01-09 12:47 AM   #27 
  - You are fortunate  JustCommonSense   Apr-01-09 12:55 PM   #30 
  - One can HOPE without having FAITH.  PassingFair   Apr-01-09 07:33 AM   #29 
  - If hope and faith aren't twins, they're at least siblings,  Uncle Joe   Apr-01-09 02:30 PM   #35 
     - Wishing and believing are two different things....  PassingFair   Apr-01-09 03:16 PM   #41 
        - I agree, but they spring from the same root.  Uncle Joe   Apr-01-09 03:27 PM   #43 
  - "I believe I'll have a beer" is not a statement of faith.  cosmik debris   Apr-01-09 01:49 PM   #32 
  - To a microscopic degree, it might be,  Uncle Joe   Apr-01-09 02:21 PM   #34 
     - You have made the definition so broad  cosmik debris   Apr-01-09 02:32 PM   #36 
        - I would love to take the credit for broadening the definition,  Uncle Joe   Apr-01-09 02:48 PM   #38 
           - It is ridiculous to say that one definition applies to ALL uses.  cosmik debris   Apr-01-09 02:58 PM   #39 
              - I believe on a subliminal level it can, I also believe language continually evolves, now you can sit  Uncle Joe   Apr-01-09 03:25 PM   #42 
                 - Your Holy Book is infallible and You are the Prophet  cosmik debris   Apr-01-09 03:58 PM   #44 
                 - First you said I broadened the definition and now you say I've chosen only one?  Uncle Joe   Apr-01-09 05:18 PM   #45 
                    - I think you are being an idiot on purpose.  cosmik debris   Apr-01-09 05:54 PM   #46 
                       - If you have given me any benefit of the doubt on this thread or any other thread, I missed it.  Uncle Joe   Apr-01-09 06:41 PM   #47 
                 - I agree with the church sign's meaning, but not its intended significance.  Silent3   Apr-02-09 10:43 PM   #56 
                    - I can understand your point of view. but I see no reason  Uncle Joe   Apr-03-09 09:51 AM   #57 
                       - If by faith you simply mean "things that are believed"...  Silent3   Apr-03-09 01:54 PM   #62 
                          - Can you name any religion or faith that isn't outside of the realm of reason,  Uncle Joe   Apr-03-09 06:27 PM   #63 
  - In french we use the word ''foi'' and it's specifically referring to the religious connotation  Sandrine for you   Apr-03-09 07:39 PM   #64 
  - Thanks for the historical background on the roots of the word faith, Sandrine for you,  Uncle Joe   Apr-04-09 12:29 PM   #66 
  - And, as a french speaker, I'm betting a 5 that you do not properly using the Pascal gambles. nt  Sandrine for you   Apr-03-09 08:49 PM   #65 
     - As an agnostic, mystic, *Buddhist, Baptist, mutt I wouldn't take that bet.  Uncle Joe   Apr-04-09 12:41 PM   #67 
 

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