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Sandrine for you Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 06:30 PM
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78. An almost impossible task for most:

"We are taught to hate the sin but love the sinner."

And also, who define the sin and the sinner ? And why "hate" a sin ? and why a sin at all ?

I dont think It's just people that are fallible, I think It's at the core of the dogme and the institution.
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  -That Darned Catholic Church! kanrok  Mar-07-09 06:49 PM   #0 
  - I'm Catholic. Could not nor would I want to  emilyg   Mar-07-09 06:52 PM   #1 
  - Ditto, Emily  kanrok   Mar-08-09 12:55 AM   #61 
  - I'm not Catholic any more really but the Catholics I know  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 06:55 PM   #2 
  - I agree E  kanrok   Mar-08-09 01:00 AM   #63 
  - Excellent post!  serrano2008   Mar-07-09 06:57 PM   #3 
  - My pleasure Serrano  kanrok   Mar-08-09 12:56 AM   #62 
  - On top of all these threads  ReliantJ   Mar-07-09 06:59 PM   #4 
  - It is a shame that the good works of some Catholics  MissB   Mar-07-09 07:01 PM   #5 
  - Why would good work be "swept away" by the corruption of the powerful?  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 07:06 PM   #8 
  - You thinking the Catholic church has a sparkling image?  MissB   Mar-07-09 07:12 PM   #11 
     - And we know that image is what counts over everything else.  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 07:13 PM   #13 
     - As I've said above using different words  MissB   Mar-07-09 07:21 PM   #16 
        - Well, no. That isn't what you said initially. Maybe you should try  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 07:35 PM   #22 
           - As I said, best of luck.  MissB   Mar-07-09 08:22 PM   #38 
              - Lol. No, you didn't upset me. But you did shift your statement.  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 08:50 PM   #47 
                 - Nope.  MissB   Mar-07-09 09:02 PM   #49 
     - You think the U.S. has a sparkling image?  pnwmom   Mar-07-09 08:00 PM   #33 
        - Exactly.  MissB   Mar-07-09 08:22 PM   #39 
        - Well, except that the laity have absolutely no say  JerseygirlCT   Mar-07-09 09:09 PM   #50 
           - Exactly.  rosesaylavee   Mar-08-09 08:19 AM   #72 
              - Too true  JerseygirlCT   Mar-08-09 11:37 AM   #73 
                 - Yep. I went from thinking of perhaps joining the convent  rosesaylavee   Mar-08-09 03:55 PM   #74 
  - How do Catholics deal with the knowledge of what some of our religious leaders  pnwmom   Mar-07-09 07:58 PM   #31 
  - You are absolutely right.  MissB   Mar-07-09 08:23 PM   #40 
  - Thanks for the kind words, B  kanrok   Mar-08-09 01:01 AM   #64 
  - Catholic Worker House and Catholic Charities serve the MOST down-and-out Americans there are.  patrice   Mar-07-09 07:04 PM   #6 
  - Good points patrice  kanrok   Mar-08-09 01:04 AM   #65 
  - As a former Cahtolic I say....  Hell Hath No Fury   Mar-07-09 07:05 PM   #7 
  - Interestingly  kanrok   Mar-08-09 12:36 AM   #60 
  - Good job, kanrok.  rug   Mar-07-09 07:08 PM   #9 
  - Thanks Rug  kanrok   Mar-08-09 01:05 AM   #66 
  - And yet two weeks before the 2008 presidential elections...  walkaway   Mar-07-09 07:08 PM   #10 
  - There were some priests who did this  kanrok   Mar-08-09 12:26 AM   #58 
  - Did you think about it on a boat? Did you think about it with a goat?  tanngrisnir3   Mar-07-09 07:13 PM   #12 
  - LOL  kanrok   Mar-08-09 12:30 AM   #59 
  - I know that in the catholic community there is very good people but  Sandrine for you   Mar-07-09 07:14 PM   #14 
  - The page you link to has been pulled. n/t  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 07:28 PM   #19 
  - An another one:  Sandrine for you   Mar-07-09 07:41 PM   #27 
  - Sandrine  kanrok   Mar-08-09 01:08 AM   #67 
     - An almost impossible task for most:  Sandrine for you   Mar-11-09 06:30 PM   #78 
  - Thank you so much for posting this. K&Red.  Tommy_Carcetti   Mar-07-09 07:18 PM   #15 
  - Thanks, Tommy  kanrok   Mar-08-09 01:09 AM   #68 
  - What you're missing about the screeds  Warpy   Mar-07-09 07:23 PM   #17 
  - Yes, they did. Because congregants ARE the Church as much  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 07:26 PM   #18 
  - Say what you will  robdogbucky   Mar-07-09 07:33 PM   #20 
  - "Say what you will" is not a response, but the avoidance of a response. n/t  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 07:36 PM   #23 
  - And that 'title!'  Fire1   Mar-07-09 07:39 PM   #26 
  - It should have been edited or locked much earlier.  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 07:51 PM   #29 
     - Clearly! But as I've said before, I guess it depends on who  Fire1   Mar-07-09 07:57 PM   #30 
        - DU admins and mods always seem to trend to free speech.  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 07:59 PM   #32 
           - Agree.  Fire1   Mar-07-09 08:05 PM   #35 
  - The Church is extremely authoritarian, I wouldn't call the laity members of the church but more...  Solon   Mar-07-09 08:05 PM   #34 
     - The so called laity is the church as well and not subject unless they live in Vatican City, no?  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 08:10 PM   #36 
        - Of course not, but then again, who has power within the Church?  Solon   Mar-07-09 08:18 PM   #37 
        - The archbishop in my home town was the guy who put H8 together  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 08:26 PM   #41 
           - True, but most of that work is usually done outside of the Church itself...  Solon   Mar-07-09 08:31 PM   #43 
              - Agree about Kerry and Kennedy but not about most of the work.  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 08:33 PM   #44 
                 - Most of that work is usually noncontroversial within the Church...  Solon   Mar-07-09 08:39 PM   #46 
                    - Growing up, I heard many times  JerseygirlCT   Mar-07-09 09:21 PM   #52 
        - But don't you see that the reason such men are in a position  JerseygirlCT   Mar-07-09 09:18 PM   #51 
           - I've made no comment whatsoever on what I think about  EFerrari   Mar-08-09 04:36 AM   #69 
  - Nope, not anti-Catholic at all.  rug   Mar-07-09 07:34 PM   #21 
  - Sounds like the hierarchy to me  Warpy   Mar-07-09 07:36 PM   #24 
  - Yes, it's a finely nuanced piece of writing.  rug   Mar-07-09 07:38 PM   #25 
  - Attention Choir ... Nance is outraged AGAIN .. you may pay tribute now ...  rtassi   Mar-07-09 07:50 PM   #28 
  - You attack my Church - you attack me.  emilyg   Mar-07-09 09:22 PM   #54 
  - Thanks for the thoughtful reply, Warpy  kanrok   Mar-08-09 12:19 AM   #57 
  - There are good people who do good works.  Why Syzygy   Mar-07-09 08:26 PM   #42 
  - An opinion not forwarded in the OP. n/t  EFerrari   Mar-07-09 08:34 PM   #45 
     - "That Darned Catholic Church"...  Why Syzygy   Mar-07-09 10:37 PM   #56 
        - No, it doesn't. The OP doesn't say you must be Catholic  EFerrari   Mar-08-09 04:38 AM   #70 
           - Did she mention any non-Catholics  Why Syzygy   Mar-08-09 07:11 AM   #71 
  - The Catholic Church is overdue for a good Schism.  phantom power   Mar-07-09 08:59 PM   #48 
  - Not to mention the lesbian who died alone on her death bed because of your church.  readmoreoften   Mar-07-09 09:22 PM   #53 
  - Ex-Catholic Here!  K8-EEE   Mar-07-09 09:52 PM   #55 
  - You are proud to be a member of an organization which spends lots and lots of money  ZombieHorde   Mar-08-09 08:54 PM   #75 
  - I grew up in the Catholic Church is Mass  Marrah_G   Mar-09-09 07:49 AM   #76 
  - You're probably right about that  JerseygirlCT   Mar-11-09 08:59 PM   #79 
     - And the effect it continues to have.  Marrah_G   Mar-16-09 07:27 AM   #83 
  - The major problem has and will continue to be that it is a hierarchy.  olegramps   Mar-10-09 06:46 AM   #77 
  - I think that's so, too.  JerseygirlCT   Mar-11-09 09:01 PM   #80 
  - Thank you for posting this. Remember that  DemBones DemBones   Mar-15-09 09:54 PM   #81 
     - Amazing, isn't it,  Why Syzygy   Mar-15-09 10:10 PM   #82 

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