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Wed Jan-07-09 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #94 |
| 97. The person to whom I responded |
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Asserted that his belief was "knowledge" rather than opinion.
It is often said in this forum, You are welcome to your own beliefs, but not to your own facts.
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| -Ask a Liberal Mormon. (With apologies to the admins and posters for my foolishness last thread ) |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 01:49 PM |
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3. What is the meaning of life? |
MineralMan |
Dec-19-08 01:51 PM |
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Douglas Adams says 42. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:02 PM |
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Hmm...so I should aspire to drown all inhabitants of |
MineralMan |
Dec-19-08 02:22 PM |
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I suppose. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:29 PM |
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Or, perhaps |
MineralMan |
Dec-19-08 02:37 PM |
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God gets a little ticked around 3 Nephi 8 in the Book of Mormon |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:41 PM |
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If that's the case, you won't really experience it, anyhow. |
MineralMan |
Dec-19-08 02:44 PM |
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Or how about... |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 07:29 PM |
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Not quite. That is the answer to the ultimate question... |
Realityhack |
Dec-27-08 10:02 AM |
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Do you support same sex marriage? |
tekisui |
Dec-19-08 01:55 PM |
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Personally? Sure. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:05 PM |
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You shouldn't... |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 03:57 PM |
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No, the church won't. |
SidneyCarton |
Jan-07-09 06:32 PM |
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I somewhat garbled this, let me clarify. |
SidneyCarton |
Jan-07-09 06:53 PM |
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why is Mormonism neccessary? |
maxsolomon |
Dec-19-08 02:01 PM |
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Hmmm. That is a good question. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:07 PM |
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Ask an active Mormon |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 01:13 PM |
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Knowledge or opinion |
cosmik debris |
Jan-07-09 01:55 PM |
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Not really... |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 02:23 PM |
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The number of children is a testable statement. |
cosmik debris |
Jan-07-09 02:45 PM |
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Not really... |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 03:31 PM |
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Now that's just bullshit. |
cosmik debris |
Jan-07-09 04:19 PM |
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Maybe to the unlearned... |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 05:16 PM |
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Yes. |
cyborg_jim |
Jan-07-09 05:53 PM |
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God spoke to you? |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 07:44 PM |
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So did I. |
cyborg_jim |
Jan-08-09 06:03 PM |
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and... |
COStorm |
Jan-08-09 06:42 PM |
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Obviously |
cyborg_jim |
Jan-08-09 06:50 PM |
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So basically...you lied. |
COStorm |
Jan-08-09 07:12 PM |
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And all of that depends on the belief or opinion |
cosmik debris |
Jan-07-09 05:57 PM |
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All religious arguments are essentially circular. |
SidneyCarton |
Jan-07-09 06:27 PM |
#94 |
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The person to whom I responded |
cosmik debris |
Jan-07-09 06:55 PM |
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Facts are problematic. |
SidneyCarton |
Jan-08-09 01:06 PM |
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The problem for the religious then is that you all appear to be grabbing a elephant |
cyborg_jim |
Jan-08-09 06:15 PM |
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Why are YOU a Mormon? |
Oregone |
Dec-19-08 02:01 PM |
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A combination of tradition and personal belief. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:12 PM |
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All those responses don't quite make a distiction between the unique mormon experiences and... |
Oregone |
Dec-19-08 02:23 PM |
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Good point, hard to explain. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:32 PM |
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Your answer |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 02:36 PM |
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In regards to a Mormon afterlife, one must differentiate between pre and post judgment. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:01 PM |
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Thanks for that. That also answers for me why Mormons practice "baptizing" dead ancestors. |
Liberal_Lurker |
Dec-19-08 02:04 PM |
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I'm also interested in the Mormon notion of the divinity of Christ |
Liberal_Lurker |
Dec-19-08 02:02 PM |
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Ok, lotsa questions here, let me see. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:26 PM |
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Thank you much! |
Liberal_Lurker |
Dec-19-08 02:55 PM |
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I'll take #3 for $100 Alex... |
Taverner |
Dec-19-08 02:17 PM |
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Honestly? I don't know. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:33 PM |
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Check out the Gnostic's understanding of Heaven |
Taverner |
Dec-19-08 02:37 PM |
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Fascinating. I certainly see parallels. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:42 PM |
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A friend of mine scored me some official Mormon magic underwear when she visited Salt Lake |
TlalocW |
Dec-19-08 02:44 PM |
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I wouldn't suggest it. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 02:57 PM |
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Doesn't it bother you... |
trotsky |
Dec-19-08 03:07 PM |
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Interesting... |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 03:10 PM |
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Does it bother you to know that Joseph Smith had been previously convicted as a con man? |
trotsky |
Dec-19-08 03:31 PM |
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Considering how many times Joseph Smith was arrested, imprisoned, etc... |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 03:37 PM |
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You're kind of missing the point. |
trotsky |
Dec-19-08 04:19 PM |
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No, I do get your point, the founder of my religion is full of crap. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 05:00 PM |
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And the bigger mistake you would be making |
trotsky |
Dec-19-08 06:49 PM |
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Are Mormons Christian? |
Goblinmonger |
Dec-19-08 05:38 PM |
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We think so. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 05:40 PM |
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That's what I always thought. n/t |
Goblinmonger |
Dec-21-08 10:05 AM |
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So, are you really big and scary? |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-19-08 05:42 PM |
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No, it's just a front |
Goblinmonger |
Dec-21-08 10:06 AM |
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Do YOU think that early Mormons practiced polygamy |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Dec-19-08 07:45 PM |
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Yes, early Mormons practiced Polygamy. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-22-08 10:35 AM |
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Who is the Heavenly Mother? |
rug |
Dec-19-08 08:19 PM |
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In all honesty, I don't know. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-22-08 10:37 AM |
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One of the main points of Mormonism |
moobu2 |
Dec-20-08 08:09 AM |
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You raise an excellent question. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-22-08 10:42 AM |
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If my faith is made up....go into oblivion |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-22-08 08:35 PM |
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Well, then I burn in good company... |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-23-08 10:51 AM |
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Logical fallacy |
TrogL |
Jan-08-09 04:27 PM |
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So what's your heartburn? |
SidneyCarton |
Jan-08-09 04:49 PM |
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Please Reconcile Between: |
GSPowner |
Dec-20-08 02:57 PM |
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The reconciliation lies in the Mormon doctrine of the Godhead |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-22-08 10:46 AM |
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That is one of the lines where your argument loses momentum |
GSPowner |
Dec-27-08 12:22 PM |
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Sources please |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 02:28 PM |
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When I worked in a group home, I was cleaning one of my clients' rooms when |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-21-08 01:40 PM |
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Yeah, we do. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-22-08 10:50 AM |
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"Perhaps they (horses) were destroyed" |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-22-08 06:52 PM |
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I know that we sponsor Archeological studies in Central America |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-23-08 10:54 AM |
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What about the total lack of archaeological evidence? |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jan-07-09 02:43 PM |
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Something to consider... |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 03:04 PM |
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So the bit about horses was a misinterpretation on the part of Smith? |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jan-07-09 03:47 PM |
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Not at all... |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 04:12 PM |
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My main point remains, though |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jan-07-09 04:46 PM |
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We see what we want to see... |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 06:57 PM |
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How do you feel about |
TransitJohn |
Dec-22-08 12:48 AM |
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... |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-22-08 10:53 AM |
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Your source |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 02:43 PM |
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sources |
TrogL |
Jan-08-09 04:49 PM |
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Which is nothing to do with nothing... |
COStorm |
Jan-08-09 06:58 PM |
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OK I'm going to ask a non-judgmental Q |
dmallind |
Dec-22-08 10:57 AM |
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Good Questions, I'll give it a shot. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-22-08 11:24 AM |
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"...the church stockpiling enough cash, durable food etc ..." |
Realityhack |
Dec-27-08 10:11 AM |
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You ever been tempted to just drop the whole thing? |
Evoman |
Dec-22-08 11:57 AM |
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I have had serious doubts, but I can't say I've ever seriously considered quitting. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-22-08 01:06 PM |
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Maybe they are meaningless. |
Evoman |
Dec-22-08 05:02 PM |
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Maybe. |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-22-08 05:59 PM |
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Does God objectively exist, or subjectively exist? |
Heaven and Earth |
Dec-24-08 11:59 AM |
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Hill Cumorah: what archaeology has been done there? |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jan-07-09 02:53 PM |
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Good question. |
SidneyCarton |
Jan-07-09 03:53 PM |
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The property has been owned by the Church since 1920 |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jan-07-09 04:30 PM |
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Do you really avoid all forms of caffeine? Even chocolate? |
108blessings |
Jan-07-09 04:25 PM |
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It's a personal thing |
COStorm |
Jan-07-09 04:53 PM |
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I love chocolate, and I drink Coke. |
SidneyCarton |
Jan-07-09 05:24 PM |
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But are you a lapsed Mormon then? Is it against the rules to indulge? |
108blessings |
Jan-07-09 06:08 PM |
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I'm not lapsed, only Coffee and Tea are specifically forbidden. |
SidneyCarton |
Jan-07-09 06:21 PM |
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Thanks...that is interesting (although it gives one pause) |
108blessings |
Jan-07-09 06:25 PM |
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Seriously - how in the hell can you believe what Joseph Smith said? |
cyborg_jim |
Jan-07-09 05:56 PM |
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You mean any more than... |
SidneyCarton |
Jan-07-09 06:23 PM |
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You're at it again |
TrogL |
Jan-08-09 04:55 PM |
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You apparently have a beef, TrogL, you want to spit it out? |
SidneyCarton |
Jan-08-09 06:21 PM |
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Well that's the thing isn't it? |
cyborg_jim |
Jan-08-09 06:06 PM |
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locking |
Wickerman |
Jan-08-09 07:27 PM |
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