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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 11:06 AM
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1. I don't so much believe in an afterlife I believe that all of what happens in the universe is cyclical in nature, and that human consciousness follows that model as well.

Why would our 'selves' be the only exception to the natural order of the universe? Makes no sense. So, I figure we come back again somehow or other.
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  -If you believe in an afterlife, why do you believe in it? nt raccoon  Dec-01-08 10:59 AM   #0 
  - I don't so much believe in an afterlife  riqster   Dec-01-08 11:06 AM   #1 
  - What makes you think all the happenings of the universe are cyclical?  HereSince1628   Dec-01-08 11:13 AM   #4 
  - Good point - it's still just a theory  riqster   Dec-01-08 11:28 AM   #8 
     - It actually seems like the theorists think aspects of it are not cyclical  HereSince1628   Dec-01-08 01:02 PM   #13 
        - Wouldn't be the first time I was out of date  riqster   Dec-01-08 01:15 PM   #15 
  - Even in nature the things that come back...  Kerry4Kerry   Dec-01-08 12:24 PM   #10 
     - Better phrasing than mine  riqster   Dec-01-08 12:36 PM   #11 
  - You go first, unless you're just trolling. n/t  crikkett   Dec-01-08 11:09 AM   #2 
  - I don't believe in an afterlife. There was a time in my life when I did, because I  raccoon   Dec-01-08 11:15 AM   #5 
  - I think our energy comes back in another life form. Hopefully  rainy   Dec-01-08 11:10 AM   #3 
  - I like that idea but I don't want to come back as a puddle of oil.  floridablue   Dec-01-08 11:22 AM   #7 
  - Poo is more useful than oil overall  riqster   Dec-01-08 11:31 AM   #9 
  - If you understand thermodynamics...  Kerry4Kerry   Dec-01-08 12:41 PM   #12 
  - The afterlife doesn't necesarily mean that the consiousness remains in tact.  peruban   Dec-02-08 11:10 PM   #79 
  - Energy, at least energy in the sense that thermodynamics considers  HereSince1628   Dec-01-08 01:09 PM   #14 
  - I don't. I also don't disbelieve. There's no solid demonstrative fact either way.  YOY   Dec-01-08 11:19 AM   #6 
  - There's no solid demonstrative fact either way.  ZombieHorde   Dec-01-08 11:35 PM   #19 
  - I believe in "one n done", then someone  floridablue   Dec-01-08 02:49 PM   #16 
  - Agreed.  elshiva   Dec-01-08 08:32 PM   #17 
  - Because I like to think that eternal suffering is a reasonable sentence for thoughtcrime comitted  laconicsax   Dec-01-08 10:51 PM   #18 
  - I believe in an afterlife.  peruban   Dec-02-08 07:25 AM   #20 
  - Why do you believe this?  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 09:07 AM   #22 
     - Yes, my belief is based on physical observation and metaphysical constructs.  peruban   Dec-02-08 10:34 AM   #23 
        - Amusing  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 02:01 PM   #24 
           - Actually fourth dimensional vectors are perfectly scientifically valid.  peruban   Dec-02-08 05:52 PM   #25 
              - How deftly you side step!  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 06:16 PM   #26 
                 - Look, if it's a flame war you're looking for you've got the wrong guy.  peruban   Dec-02-08 06:26 PM   #27 
                    - Like I said:  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 06:35 PM   #28 
                       - If you actually took a second to respond to my idea intelligently  peruban   Dec-02-08 06:39 PM   #29 
                          - You have very clever insults for a Buddhist.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 06:46 PM   #30 
                          - Are you being purposefully dense out of amusement?  peruban   Dec-02-08 07:01 PM   #31 
                          - You have called it  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 07:16 PM   #35 
                             - Very good! You're getting it.  peruban   Dec-02-08 07:23 PM   #38 
                                - I guess the show is over.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 07:28 PM   #40 
                                   - Scientific analysis is used in philosophical arguments.  peruban   Dec-02-08 08:00 PM   #43 
                                      - I'm just observing here.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 08:13 PM   #46 
                                         - I apreciate your observations.  peruban   Dec-02-08 08:33 PM   #50 
                                            - You're welcome. n/t  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 08:39 PM   #53 
                                               - I think you meant to say, "Thank you",  peruban   Dec-02-08 08:45 PM   #54 
                                               - I always say "You're Welcome"  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 08:50 PM   #57 
                                               - Oh, sorry.  peruban   Dec-02-08 09:29 PM   #61 
                                               - Since you are not familiar with this forum,  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 09:38 PM   #62 
                                               - I believe I've made a solid case for my beliefs.  peruban   Dec-02-08 09:46 PM   #64 
                                               - You are welcome to believe anything you want to believe.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 09:57 PM   #66 
                                               - Again with the single sentence quips.  peruban   Dec-02-08 10:25 PM   #70 
                                               - Oooooh it's back to the bitterness again.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 10:31 PM   #72 
                                               - Ahh, I see.  peruban   Dec-02-08 10:55 PM   #75 
                                               - ENCORE! ENCORE! n/t  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 11:01 PM   #77 
                          - Oh, and are Buddhists not supposed to be able to make clever remarks?  peruban   Dec-02-08 07:04 PM   #32 
                             - You're just more amusing than most buddhists.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 07:09 PM   #33 
                                - I feel sadness for you.  peruban   Dec-02-08 07:13 PM   #34 
                                   - Oooooh now it is just bitterness.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 07:17 PM   #36 
                                      - I expected about that much.  peruban   Dec-02-08 07:26 PM   #39 
                                         - You don't make the rules here.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 07:32 PM   #41 
                                            - If you get your head out of the sandbox for a second  peruban   Dec-02-08 08:02 PM   #44 
                                               - Your demands are no more potent than your insults. n/t  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 08:14 PM   #47 
                                                  - And I've "demanded" what, exactly? n/t  peruban   Dec-02-08 08:34 PM   #51 
                          - "Nothing I've posted flies in the face of science"  Kerry4Kerry   Dec-02-08 07:23 PM   #37 
                             - You haven't read my other posts here.  peruban   Dec-02-08 07:50 PM   #42 
                                - Now that's the part that's amusing.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 08:06 PM   #45 
                                   - You've never taken a single philosophy course, have you?  peruban   Dec-02-08 08:25 PM   #48 
                                      - It's not about me. It never was.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 08:32 PM   #49 
                                      - You density is a pose, of course.  peruban   Dec-02-08 08:38 PM   #52 
                                         - When you post an idiotic statement  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 08:46 PM   #55 
                                            - You keep sidestepping the obvious point here.  peruban   Dec-02-08 09:09 PM   #58 
                                               - No, YOU are discussing pseudo science  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 09:17 PM   #59 
                                                  - What you call pseudoscience has long been considered "metaphysics".  peruban   Dec-02-08 09:41 PM   #63 
                                                  - You say potato, I say bullshit.  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 09:49 PM   #65 
                                                  - You really can't respond with more than a single sentence at a time, can you?  peruban   Dec-02-08 10:13 PM   #67 
                                                  - You're talking to yourself  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 10:23 PM   #69 
                                                  - What exactly do you want me to continue?  peruban   Dec-02-08 10:27 PM   #71 
                                                  - Making a fool of yourself. n/t  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 10:31 PM   #73 
                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-02-08 10:58 PM   #76 
                                                  - After all your ad hominem attacks you accuse ME of attacking you?  cosmik debris   Dec-02-08 11:03 PM   #78 
                                      - You can't just pull presuppositions out of your ass, however.  Kerry4Kerry   Dec-02-08 08:49 PM   #56 
                                         - My conjecture was sound and provided adequate basis for my opinion.  peruban   Dec-02-08 09:24 PM   #60 
                                            - You're basically saying if you presume what you want to presume...  Kerry4Kerry   Dec-02-08 10:14 PM   #68 
                                               - Not quite.  peruban   Dec-02-08 10:50 PM   #74 
                                                  - If we're going to play the credentials game...  Kerry4Kerry   Dec-02-08 11:21 PM   #80 
                                                     - You make very good points.  peruban   Dec-03-08 12:08 AM   #81 
                                                     - I'm not expecting a thesis paper  Kerry4Kerry   Dec-03-08 10:41 AM   #82 
                                                     - So, then  peruban   Dec-03-08 11:21 AM   #83 
                                                     - Oh, I'm used to it.  Kerry4Kerry   Dec-03-08 03:49 PM   #85 
  - On the afterlife, and the soul.  realpolitik   Dec-02-08 08:48 AM   #21 
  - Afterlife and Nirvana were explained to me in 5 words  Azooz   Dec-03-08 02:50 PM   #84 
  - It gives me hope that there might actually be justice some time...  SidneyCarton   Dec-03-08 06:49 PM   #86 

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