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Wed Jun-25-08 06:05 PM
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the whole divide and conquerer thing.
Not to mention it's drag on the church plate numbers.
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| -What if everyone just admits that WE DON'T KNOW |
Taverner |
Jun-25-08 05:57 PM |
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But they have "faith"! |
Hydra |
Jun-25-08 06:00 PM |
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Faith is irrelevant |
Taverner |
Jun-25-08 06:03 PM |
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Two people can have equally strong faith in two opposing beliefs. |
fiziwig |
Jun-25-08 06:12 PM |
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Please solve this ageless debate with your "proof". |
edhopper |
Jun-25-08 06:59 PM |
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I too, was being sarcastic |
Hydra |
Jun-25-08 08:12 PM |
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Some power greater than me works with me. I can't understand it but it has happened so many times |
Mountainman |
Jun-25-08 06:03 PM |
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Yes you believe this |
Taverner |
Jun-25-08 06:05 PM |
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My answer has been for years - "I do not believe in Organized Religion." |
Bobbieo |
Jun-25-08 06:06 PM |
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I think some people are afraid not to believe, and afraid |
gateley |
Jun-25-08 06:03 PM |
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That would mess up |
DiktatrW |
Jun-25-08 06:05 PM |
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Wouldn't that make you an Agnostic then? |
parasim |
Jun-25-08 06:06 PM |
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Yes, I am convinced there is no god |
Taverner |
Jun-25-08 06:07 PM |
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Ah, I see. |
parasim |
Jun-25-08 06:16 PM |
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To be convinced of something which is not known is to have faith. |
The Night Owl |
Jun-26-08 05:37 PM |
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I'm not convinced of anything |
melody |
Jun-25-08 06:07 PM |
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Agreed |
Taverner |
Jun-25-08 06:09 PM |
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My Jesuit training left me with this: |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jun-25-08 06:08 PM |
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Damn, that is a Koan if I ever saw one |
Taverner |
Jun-25-08 06:10 PM |
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See why I love my Jesuit background, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jun-25-08 06:14 PM |
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Like the Freemasons, I think the Jesuits were a "subvert from within" kinda group |
Taverner |
Jun-25-08 06:44 PM |
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That sums it up nicely. And very Jesuit to do so! nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-25-08 07:59 PM |
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I don't know and I don't care. |
Mythsaje |
Jun-25-08 06:19 PM |
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So you say you don't KNOW |
edhopper |
Jun-25-08 06:57 PM |
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I am convinced there is no god |
Taverner |
Jun-25-08 07:01 PM |
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What is this "KNOW" idea you have? |
edhopper |
Jun-25-08 07:07 PM |
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Sure there are. |
varkam |
Jun-25-08 10:34 PM |
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I don't know if any of those deities exist or not. |
varkam |
Jun-25-08 10:33 PM |
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You're pretty sure you can be 100% sure? |
The Night Owl |
Jun-26-08 06:00 PM |
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Immortality is in the balance |
cosmik debris |
Jun-25-08 07:43 PM |
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Of course that's correct |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-25-08 07:58 PM |
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There is no money in that for any camp. |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-25-08 08:10 PM |
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... |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-25-08 09:09 PM |
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I don't know, either. I don't believe, but I could be mistaken. |
varkam |
Jun-25-08 10:32 PM |
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But can we say that we KNOW monsters under the bed don't exist? |
trotsky |
Jun-26-08 07:00 AM |
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Ceiling Cat can has existence? {EOM} |
The Night Owl |
Jun-26-08 02:34 PM |
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Indeed, faith does not equal knowing. |
SidneyCarton |
Jun-26-08 10:24 AM |
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Exactly. That's precisely the way I see it! nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-26-08 02:26 PM |
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Saying 'We do not know' when in fact we do... |
and-justice-for-all |
Jun-26-08 07:44 PM |
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easy |
StateRed |
Jun-27-08 07:22 PM |
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Not really, |
edhopper |
Jun-28-08 10:31 AM |
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Indeed. nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Jul-07-08 08:26 PM |
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Got me. |
rug |
Jun-26-08 08:54 PM |
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I wish the OP |
edhopper |
Jun-27-08 01:04 PM |
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what I do know - if it helps |
Azooz |
Jun-28-08 11:59 AM |
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Yawn |
cyborg_jim |
Jun-28-08 12:33 PM |
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And if we could take a single page of the Quran in Arabic |
edhopper |
Jun-28-08 12:57 PM |
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Aramaic |
Azooz |
Jun-28-08 05:02 PM |
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And if I talk to a scholar who is fluent in both |
edhopper |
Jun-28-08 05:43 PM |
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a book |
Azooz |
Jun-30-08 07:41 AM |
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Let's see the peer-reviewed analysis - i.e. not analysis from those with an obvious bias |
cyborg_jim |
Jun-30-08 02:05 PM |
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Then what? |
Azooz |
Jul-01-08 04:27 PM |
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Arabics say "Arabic is the best!" |
cyborg_jim |
Jul-01-08 04:55 PM |
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The Quran says Arabs be the worst :) |
Azooz |
Jul-02-08 08:03 AM |
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Again |
edhopper |
Jul-02-08 08:36 AM |
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one page? |
Azooz |
Jul-02-08 07:40 PM |
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Okay, here you go, |
edhopper |
Jul-05-08 03:57 PM |
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I like this one from Shakespeare, too... |
PassingFair |
Jul-05-08 04:28 PM |
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English? |
Azooz |
Jul-05-08 06:34 PM |
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You missunderstand me |
edhopper |
Jul-05-08 07:02 PM |
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Other languages to? |
Azooz |
Jul-07-08 08:02 AM |
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I assume you've read the works of |
edhopper |
Jul-07-08 08:11 AM |
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Oh contraire |
ironbark |
Jul-07-08 10:57 AM |
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agreed |
Azooz |
Jul-07-08 01:59 PM |
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So in other words you've just accepted that the Quran is "the best" based on clearly biased sources? |
cyborg_jim |
Jul-07-08 02:08 PM |
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no - from language usage |
Azooz |
Jul-07-08 02:56 PM |
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I find my avatar to be far more eloquent. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-28-08 01:01 PM |
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Hi Azooz |
ironbark |
Jun-30-08 08:44 AM |
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HI! |
Azooz |
Jul-01-08 01:28 PM |
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Knowledge is the perception of truth. |
patriotvoice |
Jun-28-08 01:42 PM |
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I believe that makes you an agnostic |
trixie |
Jun-28-08 05:42 PM |
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Good way of putting it... |
Taverner |
Jul-05-08 07:57 PM |
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I don't know. |
Marrah_G |
Jun-30-08 08:12 AM |
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Some do know, but no power on earth is going to convince others. |
pegleg |
Jul-06-08 07:43 PM |
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Self-delete |
LanternWaste |
Jul-07-08 10:33 AM |
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