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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:45 AM
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2. It IS a metaphor. What - do you believe someone floated up into the sky?
The cycle of death and rebirth is central to many beliefs, religions and spiritual paths. One must give up parts of oneself to become something new.

In christianity, when one becomes a believer they are reborn. They give up parts of themselves for a new path.

In the case of Jesus he gave up his life completely and followed the will of his father without any expectation of rebirth. Resurrection was a bonus.
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  -So what about that resurrection thing? John Gauger  May-31-08 08:31 AM   #0 
  - Ancient narrative structure  boobooday   May-31-08 08:33 AM   #1 
  - It IS a metaphor. What - do you believe someone floated up into the sky?  bluerum   May-31-08 08:45 AM   #2 
  - No, I think it's a myth.  John Gauger   May-31-08 09:11 AM   #8 
     - The entire bible is metaphor.  bluerum   May-31-08 10:02 AM   #12 
        - Do you mean to say that no part of the bible  John Gauger   May-31-08 10:25 AM   #16 
           - I certainly cannot speak for the authors intentions. I am speaking of my  bluerum   May-31-08 10:33 AM   #18 
           - "Kernel of spiritual truth" - something that has relevance to human spirituality.  bluerum   May-31-08 10:35 AM   #19 
              - I should have made myself more clear.  John Gauger   May-31-08 11:47 AM   #21 
                 - It is a tough concept. I am not even going to try to explain it beyond  bluerum   May-31-08 12:20 PM   #24 
  - The Qur'an says  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-31-08 08:45 AM   #3 
  - There's a more recent thread that I thought related to this  igil   May-31-08 02:43 PM   #25 
  - Aramaic and Hebrew are metaphorical languages  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-31-08 08:47 AM   #4 
  - Interesting.  turtlensue   May-31-08 08:50 AM   #5 
  - What's the difference between a metaphor and a myth?  uberllama42   May-31-08 08:53 AM   #6 
  - Exaclty.  John Gauger   May-31-08 09:13 AM   #9 
     - Well, a myth is easier to demolish  uberllama42   May-31-08 09:28 AM   #11 
        - You can't debunk something that was never intended to be taken literally.  bluerum   May-31-08 10:08 AM   #13 
        - How do you know that these things were never intended to be read literally?  uberllama42   May-31-08 10:18 AM   #15 
           - The only things that matters is if YOU think it should be read literally.  bluerum   May-31-08 10:31 AM   #17 
              - Again, I'm not saying they should be read literally  uberllama42   May-31-08 11:18 AM   #20 
                 - I like the last two 's of your post as they point out that historical  bluerum   May-31-08 12:13 PM   #23 
        - I'm not trying to demolish it.  John Gauger   May-31-08 10:14 AM   #14 
  - You missed one  RC   May-31-08 09:06 AM   #7 
  - Yeah, but that doesn't speak to my central question.  John Gauger   May-31-08 09:16 AM   #10 
  - It comes from a period when gods were resurrecting left and right  TechBear_Seattle   May-31-08 12:05 PM   #22 
  - Other - Jesus was a mystic, like Iron Crutch Li  bananas   May-31-08 04:44 PM   #26 
  - What does that mean, though?  John Gauger   Jun-01-08 06:28 PM   #27 
  - I'm not sure  JerseygirlCT   Jun-01-08 07:52 PM   #28 
  - I Suspect the Original Belief  ribofunk   Jun-02-08 06:53 PM   #29 
  - It was a real event  Zebedeo   Jun-04-08 09:15 PM   #30 
     - I hope this doesn't come across as impertinent  uberllama42   Jun-04-08 10:25 PM   #31 
        - I am an Old Earth Creationist  Zebedeo   Jun-04-08 11:39 PM   #32 
           - Zeb, and I mean this with the utmost respect  Evoman   Jun-05-08 12:04 AM   #33 
           - It seems alien to us, at least in the environment of this board  uberllama42   Jun-05-08 12:46 AM   #34 
           - Thank you.  Zebedeo   Jun-05-08 12:19 PM   #37 
           - Thanks  Zebedeo   Jun-05-08 12:18 PM   #36 
           - Thanks  uberllama42   Jun-05-08 12:49 AM   #35 

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