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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:16 PM
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18. Well, I'm sorry to hear this...
...because I knew you were interested in serving. This is so wrong.

- Tell me, is the ACLU allowed to practice law in Texas??? Wouldn't hurt to ask...
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  -No Religious Oath--No Jury Service cosmik debris  Apr-21-08 05:25 PM   #0 
  - That is fucked up.  ZombieHorde   Apr-21-08 05:26 PM   #1 
  - MAJOR league fucked up.  antifaschits   Apr-21-08 05:28 PM   #5 
  - Oh, you're from TEXAS.......  Tangerine LaBamba   Apr-21-08 05:27 PM   #2 
  - Explain??  Parche   Apr-21-08 05:27 PM   #3 
  - I told the Judge that I would not take a religious oath  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 05:33 PM   #7 
     - What religious oath?  Parche   Apr-21-08 05:49 PM   #15 
     - I don't recall the exact wording  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 05:57 PM   #16 
     - There must be lots of organizations who'd be willing to take on the case pro bono.  IntravenousDemilo   Apr-21-08 06:09 PM   #17 
        - Sorry to disappoint you  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 06:21 PM   #20 
        - And you know this because you have already asked them? (nm)  Book Lover   Apr-21-08 06:22 PM   #21 
        - The ACLU wouldn't help me when I was forced to pray  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 06:39 PM   #23 
           - The difference here is that you were prohibited from performing a state function that is  IntravenousDemilo   Apr-21-08 07:30 PM   #34 
           - You obviously overlooked a salient point  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 07:38 PM   #35 
              - Then you might want to find a good up-and-coming constitutional lawyer  IntravenousDemilo   Apr-21-08 08:12 PM   #40 
           - Sadly, I have to agree (nm)  Book Lover   Apr-22-08 06:44 PM   #59 
        - Their pockets are pretty deep. They might surprise you. It doesn't hurt to let them know. n/m  IntravenousDemilo   Apr-21-08 07:26 PM   #33 
        - The courts probably recognize no "right to serve on a jury"  struggle4progress   Apr-22-08 12:27 AM   #43 
           - But... if an atheist is a defendent, rules regarding oaths with 'so help me god' rule out peers  havocmom   Apr-22-08 11:37 AM   #54 
              - 1. I was responding primarily to the long string of posts above, all claiming  struggle4progress   Apr-22-08 10:04 PM   #60 
              - 2. Here is the juror's oath required by statute:  struggle4progress   Apr-22-08 10:22 PM   #61 
              - 3. To what extent the oath actually prevents people from serving on juries  struggle4progress   Apr-22-08 10:43 PM   #62 
              - 4. If you know of a number of cases, in which the religious faith or lack of faith of the juror  struggle4progress   Apr-22-08 10:47 PM   #63 
  - where do you live? even in this reddest of counties, I know atheists who have served on  niyad   Apr-21-08 05:28 PM   #4 
  - I was able to affirm in Oklahoma  notmypresident   Apr-21-08 05:30 PM   #6 
  - You might put in a formal complaint with the Texas AG  Warpy   Apr-21-08 05:33 PM   #8 
  - Our constitution requires belief in a supreme being  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 05:35 PM   #10 
  - Hey, whatever it takes.  TomInTib   Apr-21-08 05:33 PM   #9 
  - I prefer to do my civic duty  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 05:36 PM   #11 
  - I don't see it as "duty".  TomInTib   Apr-21-08 05:40 PM   #12 
     - You can't have jury trials without jurors.  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 05:44 PM   #14 
        - I'm with you, Cosmik....  PassingFair   May-12-08 12:56 PM   #66 
  - I am always reminded of a line from "night court" about jury duty.  niyad   Apr-21-08 06:20 PM   #19 
  - Yeah, ain't it great  rock   Apr-21-08 05:44 PM   #13 
  - Well, I'm sorry to hear this...  DeSwiss   Apr-21-08 06:16 PM   #18 
  - Now THERE is a good idea. Send out the bat signal!  beam me up scottie   Apr-21-08 06:41 PM   #26 
  - They have their own lawyers that represent clients. Like Randall Kallinen.  Perragrande   May-13-08 01:51 PM   #67 
  - I'm proud of you.  beam me up scottie   Apr-21-08 06:39 PM   #22 
  - The Mennonite was booted too.  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 06:41 PM   #25 
     - Well that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, those goddamn mennonites, they're as corrupt as you can get...  beam me up scottie   Apr-21-08 06:45 PM   #27 
        - It's not the worst thing to happen to me, I'll get over it.  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 06:51 PM   #28 
           - We'll add it to the current list of non-existent examples of discrimination against atheists.  beam me up scottie   Apr-21-08 06:55 PM   #29 
              - This time I didn't say anything about being an atheist  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 07:02 PM   #30 
                 - Other than mennonites and atheists, any idea what other groups would have reason to refuse?  beam me up scottie   Apr-21-08 07:13 PM   #31 
                    - The Great Zebedo knows all, tells all.  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 07:24 PM   #32 
                    - I think it must have been challenged otherwise the other bible belt states would require it.  beam me up scottie   Apr-21-08 07:43 PM   #36 
                    - This is not a requirement in the normal sense.  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 08:06 PM   #39 
                       - Bingo.  beam me up scottie   Apr-22-08 09:37 AM   #52 
                    - Can you please give details?  Zebedeo   Apr-21-08 07:48 PM   #37 
                       - I reported to the first court room  cosmik debris   Apr-21-08 08:03 PM   #38 
                          - That's disgraceful  Zebedeo   Apr-21-08 08:45 PM   #42 
                    - Friends (aka Quakers) would have refused to swear  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-22-08 08:30 AM   #47 
                       - In a perfect world, one's word would be enough for anybody, not just christians.  beam me up scottie   Apr-22-08 09:26 AM   #51 
  - That's pretty messed up  5LeavesLeft   Apr-21-08 06:39 PM   #24 
  - I have never gotten to be a juror ...  Journalgrrl   Apr-21-08 08:27 PM   #41 
  - That is just absurd...  and-justice-for-all   Apr-22-08 03:45 AM   #44 
  - Thanks for the tip.  smoogatz   Apr-22-08 08:00 AM   #45 
  - Ah, but your profile says you're in a civilised state  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-22-08 08:24 AM   #46 
  - Well, crap.  smoogatz   Apr-22-08 08:37 AM   #49 
  - Alas, such a trick would not work in my state  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-22-08 08:35 AM   #48 
     - Yeah, but were you wearing nail polish and lipstick?  beam me up scottie   Apr-22-08 09:21 AM   #50 
     - A good point  cosmik debris   Apr-22-08 09:54 AM   #53 
        - And of course then it requires you to single yourself out.  trotsky   Apr-22-08 11:46 AM   #55 
           - In the past I have refused to tell what "my religion" was  cosmik debris   Apr-22-08 12:01 PM   #56 
  - One would think that it would be unconstitutional...  rexcat   Apr-22-08 04:13 PM   #57 
     - There was never any doubt that it is illegal.  cosmik debris   Apr-22-08 05:28 PM   #58 
        - A successful challenge...  diogenes99   May-10-08 11:33 PM   #64 
           - Thank you, and welcome to DU  cosmik debris   May-11-08 06:56 AM   #65 

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