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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-19-07 11:12 PM
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24. That is a developed trait
It is not inherent at birth. We don't even have an awareness of self at birth. That has to be learned as well. Later we learn to project the identity we have learned to attribute to ourselves to others we encounter. We associate their behavior and personality with this identity we project upon them and this is how we internalize them.

The concept of God comes from this process but it taught specifically by parents and others to guide the process of projecting identity onto the universe, elements, or whatever the particular cultural belief system assumes as having an identity. This is more decidedly learned. The capacity to project identity does not mean that it automatically leads to projecting god onto things. I as an example was raised by nonreligious soft atheist parents. I never projected a notion of god onto the universe. I never really encountered strong advocacy for the existence of gods until my view of the world was well developed. By that time such propositions could not find purchase within my mind. I saw the things they claimed as god to be easily described by other factors not requiring an identity to explain.

So no. God is not a universal thing. Not all who are born believe in god or come to believe in god. I am evidence of that as are any other life long atheists.
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     - In respect to believing in a non-existent power (prayer), yeah,  stopbush   Aug-19-07 06:31 PM   #15 
  - Prayer can be a powerful tool  ayeshahaqqiqa   Aug-19-07 05:24 PM   #11 
  - I believe  angrycarpenter   Aug-19-07 10:29 PM   #17 
  - Let us say  Az   Aug-19-07 10:30 PM   #18 
  - faith is not a rational thing  angrycarpenter   Aug-19-07 10:34 PM   #19 
     - I have no interest in an individual of pure logic  Az   Aug-19-07 10:38 PM   #20 
        - reality is relative to the observer  angrycarpenter   Aug-19-07 10:51 PM   #21 
           - Um, problem there  Az   Aug-19-07 10:55 PM   #22 
           - mysticism is inherent  angrycarpenter   Aug-19-07 11:04 PM   #23 
           - That is a developed trait  Az   Aug-19-07 11:12 PM   #24 
           - nature vs. nurture  angrycarpenter   Aug-19-07 11:32 PM   #25 
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