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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. Yawn. I think you have said everything you wanted to say at least twice now.
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  -So, relative ethics or absolutes? Which do you prefer and why? How do you work out what is moral? Random_Australian  Mar-26-07 03:46 AM   #0 
  - Hmmmmmm ???  shirlden   Mar-26-07 07:08 AM   #1 
  - "War is never moral, even when the good guys win."  trotsky   Mar-26-07 07:47 AM   #2 
  - I've got that covered:  Random_Australian   Mar-26-07 03:46 PM   #8 
  - Even the strictest biblical literalist...  trotsky   Mar-26-07 08:05 AM   #3 
  - So, how do YOU decide whether an action is moral?  Random_Australian   Mar-26-07 03:47 PM   #9 
     - Um, I know it when I see it?  trotsky   Mar-26-07 04:04 PM   #14 
        - fairsky enoughsky trotskysky.  Random_Australian   Mar-26-07 04:36 PM   #16 
  - Relative for me, because I have good reasons  MistressOverdone   Mar-26-07 08:22 AM   #4 
  - Hmmmm, so, say for murder would you take the view that  Random_Australian   Mar-26-07 03:49 PM   #10 
     - I was half kidding  MistressOverdone   Mar-26-07 05:27 PM   #17 
  - I think there are some absolutes, and the rest is relative.  Heaven and Earth   Mar-26-07 12:40 PM   #5 
  - Agreed. There are some absolutes, but much room for relativity.  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-26-07 09:09 PM   #20 
  - Indirect utilitarianism  kiahzero   Mar-26-07 02:30 PM   #6 
  - I tend to think that there are moral absolutes  varkam   Mar-26-07 02:38 PM   #7 
  - I'm a Rule Utillitarian, wich make me, technically, an "Absolutist" in Ethics.  Odin2005   Mar-26-07 03:53 PM   #11 
  - So, what are some of these absolutes?  Random_Australian   Mar-26-07 03:58 PM   #12 
     - 1. Society needs to limit suffering as much as is practical.  Odin2005   Mar-27-07 08:37 AM   #37 
  - Neitzschean perspectivist here  toddaa   Mar-26-07 04:02 PM   #13 
  - Well then, extrapolate!  Random_Australian   Mar-26-07 04:36 PM   #15 
     - Oh, you want me to be serious  toddaa   Mar-26-07 07:41 PM   #19 
  - Ethics by pure calculation? No thanks!  struggle4progress   Mar-26-07 07:05 PM   #18 
     - Hate to break it to ya - you're calculating  cyborg_jim   Mar-26-07 09:33 PM   #21 
     - Ya mist da pint. Reread the first of my guidelines  struggle4progress   Mar-26-07 09:46 PM   #22 
        - Not at all. You just don't understand stand that unless you're Two-Face  cyborg_jim   Mar-26-07 09:54 PM   #23 
           - Ethics is not a matter of pure reasoning. It does not involved unadorned reckoning.  struggle4progress   Mar-26-07 10:12 PM   #24 
              - So, in other words you don't understand what calculation is  cyborg_jim   Mar-26-07 10:25 PM   #25 
                 - Semantic quibbling for the win! (n/t)  kiahzero   Mar-26-07 10:33 PM   #26 
                 - Hardly. The implication is that there is something non-computational here  cyborg_jim   Mar-26-07 10:45 PM   #27 
                 - I will gently hazard the guess that I might know a great deal more about ...  struggle4progress   Mar-26-07 10:49 PM   #28 
                    - I'm curious if I'm understanding you correctly  kiahzero   Mar-26-07 10:53 PM   #29 
                    - I don't think much about metaphysics anymore: I did when younger and ...  struggle4progress   Mar-26-07 11:12 PM   #31 
                       - So, yeah...  kiahzero   Mar-26-07 11:17 PM   #34 
                       - I fail to see the mutual exclusion  cyborg_jim   Mar-26-07 11:17 PM   #35 
                    - And I will hazard that knowing what you do does not preclude you from being wrong here  cyborg_jim   Mar-26-07 10:58 PM   #30 
                       - Yawn. I think you have said everything you wanted to say at least twice now.  struggle4progress   Mar-26-07 11:14 PM   #32 
                          - Can you not just reply to what I said?  cyborg_jim   Mar-26-07 11:16 PM   #33 
                             - Very well. Here is my response:  struggle4progress   Mar-27-07 10:27 AM   #39 
                                - Haha  cyborg_jim   Mar-27-07 11:38 AM   #40 
     - Ah, you're one level too low on the logic thing.  Random_Australian   Mar-27-07 02:41 AM   #36 
        - Well, you wrote " ... I rely on my reason alone; for me it's simply a matter of performing ...  struggle4progress   Mar-27-07 09:41 AM   #38 

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