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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. And no-one is saying "how dare they execute someone for being right"
they're saying "how dare they execute someone for disagreeing with them". It was only to the power-crazed Vatican that what he said mattered.
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  -Feb 17--Giordano Bruno--A Day to Remember Goblinmonger  Feb-17-07 08:33 AM   #0 
  - The Inquisition is alive and well  hobbit709   Feb-17-07 08:41 AM   #1 
  - Have you ever read  PADemD   Feb-17-07 09:50 AM   #2 
  - K&R, lest we forget.  Dr.Phool   Feb-17-07 10:41 AM   #3 
  - The Folly of Giordano Bruno  struggle4progress   Feb-17-07 01:51 PM   #4 
  - I'm not taking the bait.  Goblinmonger   Feb-17-07 08:57 PM   #6 
  - Yeah, "historical matters should be addressed accurately" is real flame-bait  struggle4progress   Feb-17-07 10:49 PM   #7 
     - Couple questions.  Goblinmonger   Feb-18-07 06:24 PM   #22 
        - Three strikes, and he's out.  trotsky   Feb-18-07 08:08 PM   #24 
        - I of course am no longer astonished to see you put words in other peoples' mouths  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 08:27 PM   #30 
           - What exactly was your point in pissing on the thread, then?  trotsky   Feb-18-07 09:23 PM   #37 
              - If the case deserves attention, then let us give it thoughtful attention  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 10:04 PM   #38 
                 - The man was executed for disagreeing with the Catholic Church.  trotsky   Feb-19-07 08:17 AM   #43 
        - 1. I hope we completely agree regarding the immorality of burning people alive  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 08:18 PM   #26 
           - Is there some motive  cosmik debris   Feb-18-07 09:23 PM   #36 
              - Is there any way to answer such a vague and yet loaded question?  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 10:22 PM   #39 
                 - Yes there is  cosmik debris   Feb-18-07 11:37 PM   #40 
                    - Here are two other posts where I have already addressed my motives  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 11:53 PM   #41 
                       - A few days ago  cosmik debris   Feb-19-07 09:00 AM   #44 
                          - Or it could just be  okasha   Feb-19-07 10:06 AM   #45 
                             - Take a look at the OP  Goblinmonger   Feb-19-07 12:22 PM   #46 
  - Well, you convinced me  toddaa   Feb-17-07 11:33 PM   #8 
  - I defended nothing of the sort -- and you that perfectly well  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 01:44 PM   #12 
  - Brilliant!  cosmik debris   Feb-18-07 12:12 AM   #9 
  - No -- I post an astronomer talking about Bruno's role in the history of astronomy  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 01:53 PM   #13 
     - That's kind of misleading.  Goblinmonger   Feb-18-07 06:03 PM   #19 
        - Consider not putting words in other peoples' mouths: I never said "silly"  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 07:33 PM   #23 
           - Yeah, you're right  Goblinmonger   Feb-18-07 08:16 PM   #25 
              - In fact, none of THOSE claims came from me either, though I suppose  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 08:23 PM   #27 
                 - I was not speaking of you  Goblinmonger   Feb-18-07 09:10 PM   #33 
  - I can't work out why you bothered posting this  muriel_volestrangler   Feb-18-07 04:42 AM   #10 
     - The sigline in the OP reads in part "Giordano Bruno is burned at the stake for having the gall to ..  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 02:42 PM   #14 
        - Nailed it.  okasha   Feb-18-07 03:58 PM   #16 
           - And no-one is saying "how dare they execute someone for being right"  muriel_volestrangler   Feb-18-07 04:19 PM   #17 
           - But of course there are much more recent and more striking examples of THAT:  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 05:06 PM   #18 
           - And everyone knows  Goblinmonger   Feb-18-07 06:14 PM   #21 
              - If you wish to make that sort of historical argument in good faith  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 09:02 PM   #32 
              - Ah, now your motive becomes clear. You almost had me fooled, too.  Zhade   Feb-20-07 04:11 PM   #61 
                 - No, I was responding to GM's claim in the post immediately prior:  struggle4progress   Feb-20-07 10:24 PM   #64 
              - Bruno also, apparently, believed in reincarnation  okasha   Feb-18-07 09:20 PM   #35 
  - Here's the Vatican library webpage on the only surviving document  struggle4progress   Feb-17-07 02:05 PM   #5 
  - Reading the entire document  Az   Feb-18-07 07:29 AM   #11 
     - I will say again that the trial of Bruno lasted seven years, that it must  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 03:16 PM   #15 
        - Your last paragraph  Goblinmonger   Feb-18-07 06:07 PM   #20 
           - Actually is not even that  Az   Feb-18-07 08:24 PM   #28 
           - The SETI editorial I posted above noters that the book by Copernicus did not land on the index  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 08:40 PM   #31 
           - Good point  Goblinmonger   Feb-18-07 09:13 PM   #34 
           - I have no idea what you are trying to ask here, since I think I just addressed that question  struggle4progress   Feb-18-07 08:25 PM   #29 
  - Its monday (4 am) and I haven't posted all weekend.. So I will raise my glass...for Bruno.  Evoman   Feb-19-07 03:56 AM   #42 
  - Here (in English) is Bruno's "La Cena de le Ceneri," including  struggle4progress   Feb-19-07 08:58 PM   #47 
  - *sigh* n/t  Goblinmonger   Feb-20-07 10:50 AM   #48 
  - I will *sigh* as well...  redqueen   Feb-20-07 01:06 PM   #49 
  - Does any of the stuff  Goblinmonger   Feb-20-07 01:14 PM   #51 
     - It has nothing to do with "siding" with him or not.  redqueen   Feb-20-07 01:42 PM   #52 
        - Nobody here  Goblinmonger   Feb-20-07 01:45 PM   #53 
           - It's not about whether it's correct or not.  redqueen   Feb-20-07 01:47 PM   #54 
              - Let's see if I can make this clear.  Goblinmonger   Feb-20-07 01:50 PM   #55 
                 - Ok. Fine by me.  redqueen   Feb-20-07 02:01 PM   #56 
                    - That is perfectly fine with me.  Goblinmonger   Feb-20-07 02:04 PM   #57 
                       - I care because I care...  redqueen   Feb-20-07 02:19 PM   #58 
                          - That reminds me of the Republican argument  cosmik debris   Feb-20-07 03:05 PM   #59 
                             - You think I'm blaming him? I don't mean to...  redqueen   Feb-20-07 03:14 PM   #60 
                                - Bruno was a man of his time.  Evoman   Feb-20-07 06:55 PM   #62 
                                - Modern science, by which one means a reliance upon experiment  struggle4progress   Feb-20-07 11:36 PM   #65 
                                - So then he was just a non-scientist who was killed by the church.  Evoman   Feb-20-07 11:52 PM   #66 
                                   - Or perhaps he was burned simply because some authoritarians ...  struggle4progress   Feb-21-07 12:41 AM   #67 
                                - That is just nasty.  redqueen   Feb-21-07 10:05 AM   #68 
                                   - No, whats nasty is taking a "shitty dump" on somebody elses thread.  Evoman   Feb-21-07 10:13 AM   #70 
                                      - Threads are holy things, to you?  redqueen   Feb-21-07 10:30 AM   #72 
                                         - Yes, they are sacred...thats why I use delicate words like shit and fuck.  Evoman   Feb-21-07 11:06 AM   #75 
                                            - Different people have different definitions of 'profane'...  redqueen   Feb-21-07 11:09 AM   #77 
                                               - I said please.  Evoman   Feb-21-07 11:13 AM   #78 
                                - Consider this  cosmik debris   Feb-20-07 09:17 PM   #63 
                                   - Where did I say he is only a substandard astronomer?  redqueen   Feb-21-07 10:09 AM   #69 
                                      - Well, I can play that game too.  cosmik debris   Feb-21-07 10:28 AM   #71 
                                         - How would that be unkind?  redqueen   Feb-21-07 10:32 AM   #73 
                                            - The topic of this thread  cosmik debris   Feb-21-07 10:46 AM   #74 
                                               - Do you realize, if not for those pointing out uncomfortable truths...  redqueen   Feb-21-07 11:07 AM   #76 
                                                  - That's like saying  cosmik debris   Feb-21-07 11:25 AM   #79 
                                                  - *sigh*  redqueen   Feb-21-07 11:28 AM   #80 
                                                  - This thread meant to pay tribute  cosmik debris   Feb-21-07 11:34 AM   #81 
                                                  - You think I was rude...  redqueen   Feb-21-07 11:50 AM   #82 
                                                  - You have had many opportunities  cosmik debris   Feb-21-07 11:54 AM   #83 
                                                  - Blame?  redqueen   Feb-21-07 11:56 AM   #84 
                                                  - You accused me  cosmik debris   Feb-21-07 12:01 PM   #85 
                                                  - Givng my opinion  redqueen   Feb-21-07 12:03 PM   #86 
                                                  - And now you accuse me again  cosmik debris   Feb-21-07 12:08 PM   #87 
                                                  - I said that *what you said* was childish.  redqueen   Feb-21-07 12:33 PM   #90 
                                                  - You have set yourself up as the ultimate arbiter  cosmik debris   Feb-21-07 12:43 PM   #91 
                                                  - Yes, I would rather it would have sunk  Goblinmonger   Feb-21-07 12:27 PM   #88 
                                                  - I'm glad you feel better... n/t  redqueen   Feb-21-07 12:33 PM   #89 
                                                  - Hey, there are some of us who haven't posted on this thread  EvolveOrConvolve   Feb-22-07 06:36 PM   #94 
  - In case you are bored,  Goblinmonger   Feb-20-07 01:11 PM   #50 
  - I want to apologize for being disruptive.  redqueen   Feb-22-07 10:32 AM   #92 
     - Are you "declaring" that or just "saying" that?  cosmik debris   Feb-22-07 01:04 PM   #93 
 

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