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Tormenta Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #118
121. Absolutely
But your original question was about the brain/mind connection. Yes, it functions according to Natural Laws, but that doesn't explain how it works. Magic? Depends upon your definition. Mystery? Yes. I'm curious about the human design too. Others are content with religious beliefs or the limits of scientific knowledge.

I'd also like to know why American beer tastes so bad.
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  -This is a thread for asking big questions. Heaven and Earth  Feb-11-07 07:19 PM   #0 
  - My turn. Great questions. I wish I had answers. We are a tiny grain of sand in the universe.  Radio_Lady   Feb-11-07 07:25 PM   #1 
  - My answers  ayeshahaqqiqa   Feb-11-07 07:26 PM   #2 
  - Consciousness grows?  cyborg_jim   Feb-11-07 07:36 PM   #3 
     - If you do not understand my concept on the nature  ayeshahaqqiqa   Feb-11-07 07:41 PM   #4 
        - Consciousness is the epiphenomial result of the functioning of our brains  cyborg_jim   Feb-11-07 07:53 PM   #7 
           - Consciousness is more than a brain function  ayeshahaqqiqa   Feb-11-07 08:02 PM   #8 
           - What does it mean to say a rock has consciousness?  cyborg_jim   Feb-11-07 08:05 PM   #9 
              - Never been in a sweatlodge, have you?  ayeshahaqqiqa   Feb-12-07 06:31 AM   #16 
                 - How helpful.  cyborg_jim   Feb-12-07 06:40 AM   #17 
                 - Defining terms  Tormenta   Feb-14-07 11:18 AM   #38 
                 - I have been is a sweatlodge. Several times in fact, and once after a pipe ceremony.  Evoman   Feb-14-07 11:01 AM   #36 
           - Did you mean "epiphenomenal"?  Tormenta   Feb-12-07 01:29 PM   #21 
              - Yes, goddamn spell checked that and still copied it wrong  cyborg_jim   Feb-12-07 01:35 PM   #22 
                 - But...  Tormenta   Feb-12-07 01:44 PM   #23 
                    - Eh?  cyborg_jim   Feb-12-07 01:53 PM   #24 
                       - This subject line thing is annoying.  Tormenta   Feb-12-07 02:16 PM   #25 
                          - I don't think you are getting the point  cyborg_jim   Feb-12-07 02:29 PM   #26 
                             - Reciprocal to what?  Tormenta   Feb-12-07 08:37 PM   #29 
                                - Sigh  cyborg_jim   Feb-13-07 06:32 AM   #31 
                                   - Ah, the old condescending sigh...  Tormenta   Feb-13-07 10:57 PM   #33 
                                      - Sigh again then  cyborg_jim   Feb-14-07 05:10 AM   #34 
                                         - What if?  Tormenta   Feb-14-07 11:10 AM   #37 
                                            - We know enough  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 08:07 AM   #45 
                                               - There's a whole lot we don't know.  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 11:01 AM   #47 
                                                  - No  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 12:34 PM   #48 
                                                     - Mental ping pong  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 01:52 PM   #49 
                                                     - Eh?  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 03:26 PM   #53 
                                                     - "Nothing suggests anything other than purely material."  redqueen   Feb-15-07 03:34 PM   #55 
                                                     - Hell, you tell me what you understand  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 03:39 PM   #57 
                                                     - Do you not agree, that looking back through history  redqueen   Feb-15-07 03:52 PM   #60 
                                                     - Can you give me a reason why we are not?  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 03:57 PM   #63 
                                                     - Are you upset? I'm not upset... I'm only asking...  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:15 PM   #70 
                                                     - It is equally unhelpful to pretend we know nothing and argue from ignorance  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:22 PM   #74 
                                                     - I didn't imply we know nothing.  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:25 PM   #77 
                                                     - It is the only argument I have seen  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:29 PM   #80 
                                                     - We don't know everything = we know nothing?  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:30 PM   #83 
                                                     - That is the general gist  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:32 PM   #86 
                                                     - Are you referring to something someone else said? N/t  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:36 PM   #89 
                                                     - Possibly  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:41 PM   #91 
                                                     - "Modus operandi"?  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:45 PM   #93 
                                                     - The irony is killing me.  Evoman   Feb-15-07 03:58 PM   #64 
                                                     - So would you say that nobody is responsible for their actions?  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:11 PM   #68 
                                                     - I am not going down this route  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:14 PM   #69 
                                                     - That is a matter of opinion. n/t  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:17 PM   #71 
                                                     - No, it is not  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:20 PM   #73 
                                                     - So it's irrelevant, because you say so?  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:24 PM   #76 
                                                     - Okay, you tell me why it is relevant  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:26 PM   #78 
                                                     - You're asking that  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:30 PM   #81 
                                                     - If you are actually interested in an answer  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:31 PM   #85 
                                                     - Yes, I am curious.  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:36 PM   #88 
                                                     - No, it's more the case that  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:39 PM   #90 
                                                     - Excellent quote!  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 04:55 PM   #95 
                                                     - C. W. Leadbeater  redqueen   Feb-15-07 05:02 PM   #96 
                                                     - Oh dear  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 04:45 PM   #92 
                                                     - Point out an ad hominem  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:53 PM   #94 
                                                     - Last try  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 05:36 PM   #99 
                                                     - Ad hominem is not a personal attack  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 06:11 PM   #102 
                                                     - Ok, I lied.  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 07:02 PM   #105 
                                                     - New understanding could  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 08:26 PM   #108 
                                                     - Can you?  Tormenta   Feb-16-07 01:09 PM   #122 
                                                     - That's what I've been doing  cyborg_jim   Feb-16-07 01:24 PM   #124 
                                                     - The last wheeze  Tormenta   Feb-16-07 02:53 PM   #128 
                                                     - I hate it when people respond with no intention of continuing  cyborg_jim   Feb-16-07 03:43 PM   #130 
  - OK, here's a couple of big one's..  TRYPHO   Feb-11-07 07:47 PM   #5 
  - Because striving for happiness gives some room in case of accident, perhaps?  muriel_volestrangler   Feb-12-07 08:19 AM   #18 
     - Law of unintended consequences  cyborg_jim   Feb-12-07 09:07 AM   #20 
  - Meh  cyborg_jim   Feb-11-07 07:47 PM   #6 
  - Is nihilism really such an awful thing?  toddaa   Feb-11-07 08:05 PM   #10 
  - Hold on a second...  TRYPHO   Feb-11-07 08:32 PM   #11 
  - Here's an article.  trotsky   Feb-11-07 08:58 PM   #12 
  - Fantastic!!  TRYPHO   Feb-13-07 09:48 PM   #32 
  - Relativity is a bitch to comprehend  toddaa   Feb-11-07 09:14 PM   #13 
  - Nihilism comes in different flavors...  redqueen   Feb-15-07 03:38 PM   #56 
  - Q & A  varkam   Feb-11-07 09:51 PM   #14 
  - My take on yours:  redqueen   Feb-15-07 03:42 PM   #58 
     - Then how can you say you believe it exists  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 03:52 PM   #61 
        - Semantics?  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:08 PM   #67 
           - Right  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:17 PM   #72 
              - No...  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:22 PM   #75 
                 - So  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:30 PM   #82 
                    - No...  redqueen   Feb-15-07 04:31 PM   #84 
                       - Then you seem to be making god synonymous for 'everything'  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:33 PM   #87 
                          - Not saying it's synonymous...  redqueen   Feb-15-07 05:15 PM   #98 
  - Random_Australian! A & Q!  Random_Australian   Feb-12-07 12:34 AM   #15 
  - Is understanding others even possible?  bryant69   Feb-12-07 08:24 AM   #19 
  - Solipsist  toddaa   Feb-12-07 05:20 PM   #27 
  - Why are humans so arrogant that they think omnipotent gods would care one whit about them?  Zhade   Feb-12-07 05:32 PM   #28 
  - Same reason they think aliens want to study our anuses  toddaa   Feb-12-07 09:01 PM   #30 
  - My question is what is in in humans  TallahasseeGrannie   Feb-14-07 10:58 AM   #35 
  - That's a very good question.  Tormenta   Feb-14-07 11:52 AM   #39 
  - If you watch as much Star Trek as I do  TallahasseeGrannie   Feb-14-07 01:33 PM   #40 
     - Interesting  Tormenta   Feb-14-07 01:59 PM   #41 
        - Never seen a single episode of Star Trek?  TRYPHO   Feb-14-07 05:27 PM   #42 
        - Ah, the Borg  TallahasseeGrannie   Feb-15-07 07:31 AM   #44 
        - Thank you  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 10:11 AM   #46 
        - I love Deep Space and Voyager  TallahasseeGrannie   Feb-15-07 07:30 AM   #43 
  - Is it really a human need to examine issues and gain knowledge?  Evoman   Feb-15-07 02:32 PM   #50 
     - Humans have done it throughout history.  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 03:21 PM   #51 
     - I doubt it  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 03:30 PM   #54 
     - Human INDIVIDUALS and GROUPS have done it through out history.  Evoman   Feb-15-07 03:44 PM   #59 
        - Hilarious!  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 05:43 PM   #100 
     - Excellent point  TallahasseeGrannie   Feb-16-07 07:52 AM   #120 
  - Why isn't the following just innately understood?  redqueen   Feb-15-07 03:23 PM   #52 
  - The big question I pursue  Az   Feb-15-07 03:53 PM   #62 
  - Ever read anything by Jiddu Krishnamurti?  PreacherCasey   Feb-15-07 04:01 PM   #65 
  - Hmm...  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 04:02 PM   #66 
  - Initially  Az   Feb-15-07 04:27 PM   #79 
     - I'm no expert on child psychology....  TRYPHO   Feb-15-07 05:04 PM   #97 
  - Just wondering  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 05:48 PM   #101 
     - It's basically a collection of chemically controlled gates  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 06:15 PM   #103 
     - So what causes the activity?  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 07:05 PM   #106 
        - It is matter obeying the laws of physics  Az   Feb-15-07 07:11 PM   #107 
        - So do apples and waterfalls have a mind?  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 09:36 PM   #112 
           - No - does that somehow prove that there is something magical going on inside our heads?  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 09:53 PM   #116 
           - No but they operate by the same laws of physics that our brain does  Az   Feb-15-07 10:03 PM   #119 
        - Would you ask the same question if I dropped a stone?  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 08:28 PM   #109 
           - I don't understand your question.  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 09:40 PM   #113 
              - I can't make it any simpler  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 09:54 PM   #117 
     - Laws of physics  Az   Feb-15-07 06:15 PM   #104 
        - Plus a little "magic"  TRYPHO   Feb-15-07 08:39 PM   #110 
           - Magic is a presumption  Az   Feb-15-07 08:50 PM   #111 
              - Who choreographed the dance?  Tormenta   Feb-15-07 09:43 PM   #114 
                 - Who cares?  cyborg_jim   Feb-15-07 09:50 PM   #115 
                 - Who said there had to be a who  Az   Feb-15-07 10:02 PM   #118 
                    - Absolutely  Tormenta   Feb-16-07 12:38 PM   #121 
                       - Erm, the point is that it does  cyborg_jim   Feb-16-07 01:11 PM   #123 
                       - Nope  Tormenta   Feb-16-07 01:31 PM   #125 
                          - Eh?  cyborg_jim   Feb-16-07 01:35 PM   #126 
                             - Going around in circles  Tormenta   Feb-16-07 02:29 PM   #127 
                                - Then could you choose a definition and stick with it?  cyborg_jim   Feb-16-07 03:30 PM   #129 
                       - Science takes time  Az   Feb-16-07 04:09 PM   #131 
                          - Question  Tormenta   Feb-17-07 09:40 AM   #132 
                             - Vector?  cyborg_jim   Feb-17-07 10:00 AM   #133 
                             - No, not really  Az   Feb-17-07 10:49 AM   #134 
                                - What evidence?  Tormenta   Feb-17-07 11:30 AM   #135 
                                   - Tests  Az   Feb-17-07 12:06 PM   #136 
                                   - Thank you  Tormenta   Feb-17-07 12:38 PM   #138 
                                      - Cycles much?  cyborg_jim   Feb-17-07 12:44 PM   #139 
                                      - That's what I said.  Tormenta   Feb-17-07 12:53 PM   #140 
                                         - The point is that how do you classify what a thought is without any activity?  cyborg_jim   Feb-17-07 01:19 PM   #141 
                                            - What do you mean by "classifying a thought"?  Tormenta   Feb-17-07 01:28 PM   #142 
                                               - What synergy?  cyborg_jim   Feb-17-07 01:35 PM   #143 
                                               - Because  Tormenta   Feb-17-07 01:54 PM   #144 
                                               - Energy is a specific thing  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 07:32 AM   #149 
                                               - Einstein  Tormenta   Feb-18-07 10:35 AM   #156 
                                               - Sigh  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 10:45 AM   #158 
                                               - You seem a little paranoid.  Tormenta   Feb-18-07 11:01 AM   #161 
                                               - Now I'm paranoid? Just how weak are your ideas that discussing THEM is such an issue?  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 11:11 AM   #163 
                                               - yeah, it did seem so  Tormenta   Feb-18-07 12:00 PM   #165 
                                               - Right whatever  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 12:39 PM   #166 
                                      - There are different portions of the brain  Az   Feb-17-07 02:04 PM   #145 
                                         - More questions  Tormenta   Feb-17-07 02:19 PM   #146 
                                            - There are neurologists who spend their lives trying to understand...  TRYPHO   Feb-17-07 05:36 PM   #147 
                                               - Ah, now there's a beautiful post!  Tormenta   Feb-17-07 10:47 PM   #148 
                                               - Computers are sufficient for computing  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 07:36 AM   #150 
                                               - What "mystical agents" are you talking about?  Tormenta   Feb-18-07 10:04 AM   #152 
                                               - "thought" "consciousness"  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 10:20 AM   #154 
                                               - So...  Tormenta   Feb-18-07 10:54 AM   #160 
                                               - This is the point  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 11:06 AM   #162 
                                               - What the hell I'm doing.  Tormenta   Feb-18-07 11:42 AM   #164 
                                               - No you're not  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 01:00 PM   #167 
                                               - I find that rather arrogant  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 07:41 AM   #151 
                                                  - I find your subject line rather ironic.  Tormenta   Feb-18-07 10:16 AM   #153 
                                                  - I am arrogant now am I?  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 10:21 AM   #155 
                                                  - Who is doing that?  Tormenta   Feb-18-07 10:38 AM   #157 
                                                  - I already explained that  cyborg_jim   Feb-18-07 10:48 AM   #159 
                                                  - Hmmm...lets take this slowly...  TRYPHO   Feb-18-07 09:19 PM   #168 
                                   - I have already answered this  cyborg_jim   Feb-17-07 12:22 PM   #137 
  - Why,  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Feb-19-07 01:50 AM   #169 
 

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