| 162. no, not taking your brow beating... |
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it seems to work for others that you try to swerve off topic.
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| -A question for Young Earth Creationists...How do you explain this? |
goodboy |
Jan-25-07 03:56 PM |
#0 |
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Just one of Yahweh's little jokes...the light from those nonexistant objects |
karlrschneider |
Jan-25-07 03:59 PM |
#1 |
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That's one theory. Another I've read is that the speed of light used to be greater. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-25-07 04:07 PM |
#9 |
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I'm pretty sure C wasn't accurately calculated before the 19th century |
karlrschneider |
Jan-25-07 04:19 PM |
#22 |
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I don't think they were accurate, either - which, clearly, they weren't. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-25-07 04:21 PM |
#27 |
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or why are there some TREES with more than 7,000 rings? |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 03:59 PM |
#2 |
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I don't thik there are trees with that many rings. I think they |
thereismore |
Jan-25-07 04:09 PM |
#12 |
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there most certainly are trees that exist |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:12 PM |
#18 |
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The oldest tree so far discovered was Prometheus, a 5000+ year old tree |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-25-07 04:18 PM |
#21 |
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THAT'S the one I was thinking about |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:20 PM |
#25 |
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Is it a bristlecone? |
karlrschneider |
Jan-25-07 04:27 PM |
#31 |
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I think that's what they're called - some kind of "cone", anyway. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-25-07 04:35 PM |
#40 |
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Oh, wait...I think that tree is a redwood. I suppose I could Google it |
karlrschneider |
Jan-25-07 04:40 PM |
#49 |
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Both bristlecones. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-25-07 04:42 PM |
#56 |
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Okay thanks. I believe I was thinking of the -largest- tree. |
karlrschneider |
Jan-25-07 04:45 PM |
#64 |
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the Lord Gawdjeezis (tm), the one true Gawd |
leftofthedial |
Jan-25-07 03:59 PM |
#3 |
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The scientists just misunderstand what they see. We can't understand God's creation. |
atommom |
Jan-25-07 04:00 PM |
#4 |
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You are on the right track |
StClone |
Jan-25-07 04:49 PM |
#68 |
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Telescopes, and indeed scientific instruments of any kind, |
Lautremont |
Jan-25-07 04:01 PM |
#5 |
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Wow, I'm glad you told me that! |
Turbineguy |
Jan-25-07 04:09 PM |
# |
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all right. lets pile on and make fun of xtians.... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:02 PM |
#6 |
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this isn't making fun of Christians |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:07 PM |
#7 |
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which sect of christianity has supernatural beliefs that... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:16 PM |
#20 |
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None. I think they're all equally foolish. |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:20 PM |
#24 |
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understood... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:26 PM |
#29 |
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Young Earth Creationists DO deserve to be mocked |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:29 PM |
#34 |
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is it your opinion that all christians deserve to be mocked? |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:34 PM |
#38 |
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Where did I imply that Christians "deserve" to be mocked? |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:36 PM |
#42 |
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i was asking you.... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:40 PM |
#48 |
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I think any belief in the supernatural is deluded thinking |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:41 PM |
#51 |
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do you believe the young earth creationists deserve to be mocked? nt |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:43 PM |
#57 |
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Don't you? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:44 PM |
#60 |
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no, i don't... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:50 PM |
#70 |
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LOL |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:51 PM |
#71 |
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mocking people for their beliefs...but you knew what i meant. nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:52 PM |
#75 |
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They're wrong. |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:55 PM |
#80 |
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in other words... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:58 PM |
#86 |
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That's not at ALL what I said |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 05:02 PM |
#91 |
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okay...lets do this one question at a time.... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:04 PM |
#96 |
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for the last fucking time, YES |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 05:07 PM |
#100 |
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you have done a commendable job in ... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:09 PM |
#102 |
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Do I mock people... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jan-31-07 01:16 PM |
#192 |
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Prejudice against what? Stupidity? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:51 PM |
#73 |
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religion. nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:53 PM |
#76 |
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We debunked that. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:54 PM |
#77 |
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i will ask you... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:57 PM |
#85 |
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No. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:58 PM |
#87 |
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dude....read this carefully... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:03 PM |
#94 |
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You dodged my question. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:05 PM |
#98 |
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i have no doubts about evolution... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:08 PM |
#101 |
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Bullshit. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:12 PM |
#105 |
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you continue to bring up holocaust denial.... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:14 PM |
#106 |
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Let's say it were. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:17 PM |
#108 |
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dude, why can't you just admit you ridicule them... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:19 PM |
#109 |
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Because that would be a lie. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:20 PM |
#111 |
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so you mock young earthers because of their supernatural... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:23 PM |
#112 |
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No, their false beliefs. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:25 PM |
#114 |
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so you feel their belief in a supernatural being is false? nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:28 PM |
#117 |
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Yes. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:31 PM |
#119 |
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how so? it is this belief that is the basis for... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:32 PM |
#121 |
| -
How is young earth creationism demonstratably false? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:33 PM |
#122 |
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it is demonstrably false... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:39 PM |
#128 |
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It is demonstrably false period. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:40 PM |
#131 |
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i am starting to doubt your courage... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:44 PM |
#135 |
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My courage? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 06:02 PM |
#146 |
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I'll tell you what the difference is. You can't *prove* that there is no "God", (particularly when |
impeachdubya |
Jan-25-07 05:35 PM |
#125 |
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it is their belief in a supernatural being that is the basis for their... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:41 PM |
#133 |
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If someone claimed that their belief in a 5000 ft tall, invisible, undetectable orangutan |
impeachdubya |
Jan-25-07 07:51 PM |
#181 |
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You are partronizing Christians, IMO, |
quantessd |
Jan-25-07 07:23 PM |
#179 |
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Nobody seems to try PROVING in a SCIENTIFIC way the virgin |
leeroysphits |
Jan-25-07 06:59 PM |
#177 |
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BRILLIANT! (nt) |
goodboy |
Jan-25-07 08:39 PM |
#187 |
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Right. Not about religion. But about a demonstrably false belief |
goodboy |
Jan-25-07 08:36 PM |
#185 |
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Yes, not because they are Christian, but because they are factually WRONG |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:45 PM |
#62 |
| -
why do you think they are factually wrong? rational thought and... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:52 PM |
#74 |
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They are factually wrong because it has been proven using the speed of light |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:54 PM |
#78 |
| -
we are in agreement on the basis of religion... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:59 PM |
#88 |
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for the last time: when it goes contrary to scientific facts |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 05:03 PM |
#93 |
| -
what aspect of religion does not attempt to override scientific facts?... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:05 PM |
#97 |
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Scientific fact doesn't say anything about the virgin birth... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:55 PM |
#79 |
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If you remember a thing called the council of Nicea, you will see |
goodboy |
Jan-25-07 08:39 PM |
#186 |
| -
She already said "yes" to that |
fujiyama |
Jan-25-07 05:06 PM |
#99 |
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Having said that... |
LanternWaste |
Jan-25-07 04:43 PM |
#58 |
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Jews and Muslims don't generally reject scientific fact. Some individuals might, though |
karlrschneider |
Jan-25-07 04:31 PM |
#36 |
| -
thus my original point... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:36 PM |
#41 |
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I consider belief in supernatural anything to be nuts. |
karlrschneider |
Jan-25-07 04:38 PM |
#45 |
| -
maybe i was not clear enough... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:41 PM |
#52 |
| -
Gee, I don't know. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:42 PM |
#53 |
| -
again... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:44 PM |
#59 |
| -
No. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:45 PM |
#63 |
| -
i understand your views now. ridicule on hard charger. nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:11 PM |
#104 |
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You understood my beliefs from the beginning. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:26 PM |
#115 |
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When they're nuts and try to convince others to be equally nuts. |
karlrschneider |
Jan-25-07 04:42 PM |
#54 |
| -
then my original point... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:45 PM |
#61 |
| -
at what point do people's "beliefs" override objective reality? |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:49 PM |
#69 |
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I think it's ok to mock based on belief. |
karlrschneider |
Jan-25-07 04:57 PM |
#84 |
| -
thank you for your honest answer. nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:10 PM |
#103 |
| -
It's always acceptable. There is no requirement we respect beliefs. |
Zhade |
Jan-27-07 03:22 PM |
#191 |
| -
Just because someone believes something doesn't make it true |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:39 PM |
#46 |
| -
huh?... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:42 PM |
#55 |
| -
No... |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 04:46 PM |
#65 |
| -
Billions of flies think shit tastes good. |
karlrschneider |
Jan-25-07 05:00 PM |
#90 |
| -
They are right. they are flies. It objectively tastes great to them. It's a false allegory. nt |
thereismore |
Jan-26-07 09:40 AM |
#190 |
| -
HOW ARE YOU GROUPING THE THEORY OF YOUNG EARTH |
goodboy |
Jan-25-07 10:08 PM |
#189 |
| -
I hate to break this to you |
spoony |
Jan-25-07 04:55 PM |
#82 |
| -
Sure. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:57 PM |
#83 |
| -
That's not the point... |
Solon |
Jan-25-07 05:00 PM |
#89 |
| -
That is simply untrue |
spoony |
Jan-25-07 05:03 PM |
#95 |
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niether do Christians -- this is a pan-sectarian breed of nuttery |
0rganism |
Jan-25-07 06:45 PM |
#172 |
| -
Because rejecting the magnitude and scope of God's... |
1620rock |
Jan-25-07 04:07 PM |
#10 |
| -
which facet of religion do you find to be acceptable? or not stupid?... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:10 PM |
#15 |
| -
You didn't ask me... |
Bigmack |
Jan-25-07 04:29 PM |
#35 |
| -
i am not debating the aspects of religion that people find... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:38 PM |
#44 |
| -
It's not making fun of Christians - it's making fun of Young Earth Creation asswipes. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-25-07 04:08 PM |
#11 |
| -
that, my friend, is because i am an agnostic... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:15 PM |
#19 |
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The existence or lack thereof |
fujiyama |
Jan-25-07 05:19 PM |
#110 |
| -
then, why do you think young earthers believe that it is? ... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:25 PM |
#113 |
| -
Huh??? |
piedmont |
Jan-25-07 05:39 PM |
#129 |
| -
why do you think they believe it is only 6000 years old? nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:47 PM |
#138 |
| -
A person who says he/she believes the earth is 6,000 years old is a Young Earth Creationist |
piedmont |
Jan-25-07 06:03 PM |
#148 |
| -
they believe it because they believe in a supreme being... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:09 PM |
#149 |
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Other people believe in a supreme being without believing that the Bible is a literal chronology |
piedmont |
Jan-25-07 06:28 PM |
#159 |
| -
that is not my point... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:34 PM |
#164 |
| -
Not an easy target-- a necessary target. |
piedmont |
Jan-25-07 06:48 PM |
#173 |
| -
how about resurrection?... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:53 PM |
#176 |
| -
Has anyone deleted science content from textbooks because it conflicts with the resurrection? |
piedmont |
Jan-25-07 07:13 PM |
#178 |
| -
bullshit. YEC do not believe the theory because they believe in a |
goodboy |
Jan-25-07 10:07 PM |
#188 |
| -
not necessarily stupid.. definately deluded n/t |
trekbiker |
Jan-25-07 06:28 PM |
#161 |
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I'm a Christian, and DO NOT subscribe to the "Young Earth" |
Glorfindel |
Jan-25-07 04:10 PM |
#14 |
| -
which of the ideas of the myriad of sects of christianity do you.. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:11 PM |
#17 |
| -
why don't you start your own.. |
CATagious |
Jan-25-07 06:37 PM |
#166 |
| -
OK, good idea. Thanks. |
mr blur |
Jan-25-07 04:11 PM |
#16 |
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Christians? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:22 PM |
#28 |
| -
there are some christians that do. nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:27 PM |
#30 |
| -
There are some Christians that are into holocaust denial. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:27 PM |
#33 |
| -
christians that hold to a... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 04:32 PM |
#37 |
| -
do you respect christians at all? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 04:35 PM |
#39 |
| -
i have enough respect not to ridicule their superatural beliefs... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:15 PM |
#107 |
| -
You apparently don't respect their beliefs... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:28 PM |
#116 |
| -
a circle jerk takes more than one person... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:30 PM |
#118 |
| -
Feeling outnumbered, Jerome? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:32 PM |
#120 |
| -
of course i am outnumbered... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:34 PM |
#124 |
| -
So, when you mock Ahmadinejad for his views... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:36 PM |
#126 |
| -
is that his religious belief? nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:40 PM |
#130 |
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If it were would you respect it? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:41 PM |
#132 |
| -
is that his religious belief? you actually should... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:45 PM |
#136 |
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LOL. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:47 PM |
#137 |
| -
is it a religious belief of his? nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:48 PM |
#139 |
| -
Would that make a difference to you? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:48 PM |
#140 |
| -
it makes it relevant here. otherwise, start a thread on his... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:51 PM |
#142 |
| -
"i promise to respond" |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:52 PM |
#143 |
| -
start a thread tying his religion to this statement and i will respond... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 05:54 PM |
#144 |
| -
You've spent a dozen posts dodging the question. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 05:59 PM |
#145 |
| -
no i have not... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:03 PM |
#147 |
| -
There's another one. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 06:10 PM |
#150 |
| -
no, my whole argument is why.. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:13 PM |
#151 |
| -
You haven't got an argument. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 06:15 PM |
#152 |
| -
destroyed by what? your prejudice? |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:19 PM |
#153 |
| -
There's another one! |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 06:23 PM |
#154 |
| -
i got an idea, destroyer...i'll start the thread...then you can follow in. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:23 PM |
#155 |
| -
destroyer? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 06:25 PM |
#157 |
| -
your a destroyer dude. thats a cool name, like Conan. nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:27 PM |
#158 |
| -
That's deep, Jerome. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 06:28 PM |
#160 |
| -
no, not taking your brow beating... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:29 PM |
#162 |
| -
It's your topic Jerome. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 06:32 PM |
#163 |
| -
no, you can go back and see my original questions... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:36 PM |
#165 |
| -
So your answer is then, A, huh? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 06:39 PM |
#167 |
| -
my answer is what i gave... |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:40 PM |
#168 |
| -
My answer? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 06:41 PM |
#169 |
| -
you hooligan, you |
k_jerome |
Jan-25-07 06:43 PM |
#170 |
| -
OMG! It's Jerome again? |
Crunchy Frog |
Jan-25-07 08:10 PM |
#182 |
| -
The young earth thing has mountains of observable scientific |
Lautremont |
Jan-25-07 04:51 PM |
#72 |
| -
No Jews |
MrWiggles |
Jan-31-07 02:35 PM |
#193 |
| -
Eh. If you want to peddle crap like a 6,000 year old Earth off as "science" |
impeachdubya |
Jan-25-07 04:55 PM |
#81 |
| -
If you have been around for awhile |
hyphenate |
Jan-25-07 06:24 PM |
#156 |
| -
Did you even read my original post? (nt) |
goodboy |
Jan-25-07 08:30 PM |
#184 |
| -
That is a beautiful picture |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jan-25-07 04:07 PM |
#8 |
| -
God painted that star that color! |
madinmaryland |
Jan-25-07 04:09 PM |
#13 |
| -
6,000 years by which calender? |
Wizard777 |
Jan-25-07 04:19 PM |
#23 |
| -
Oh, that's pretty...did you draw that yourself? |
cynatnite |
Jan-25-07 04:21 PM |
#26 |
| -
God put it there to make you ask questions. Duh! n/t |
racaulk |
Jan-25-07 04:27 PM |
#32 |
| -
If you really want to blow their minds just ask them to explain pi and it's uses. |
Bandit |
Jan-25-07 04:38 PM |
#43 |
| -
Good question, but if you really want a YEC to play with you should look elsewhere |
piedmont |
Jan-25-07 04:40 PM |
#47 |
| -
Not a YEC, but I don't understand the imputation |
atre |
Jan-25-07 04:40 PM |
#50 |
| -
It is a distance, but it also measures time. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-25-07 04:47 PM |
#67 |
| -
You know |
hyphenate |
Jan-25-07 06:50 PM |
#175 |
| -
Bill Hicks said it well - "Do you really think that God wants to fuck with us?" |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-31-07 05:06 PM |
#195 |
| -
Those stars and planets are actually much closer. |
quantessd |
Jan-25-07 04:47 PM |
#66 |
| -
God I Love Astronomy. What A Beautiful Picture! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-25-07 05:02 PM |
#92 |
| -
jesus threw the frisbee a bit too far? |
SoCalDem |
Jan-25-07 05:34 PM |
#123 |
| -
Would you believe this was answered for me by a guy |
hfojvt |
Jan-25-07 05:38 PM |
#127 |
| -
I do not doubt that he flunked his physics course. nm |
CATagious |
Jan-25-07 06:50 PM |
#174 |
| -
Yes, I would believe it. |
piedmont |
Jan-25-07 07:25 PM |
#180 |
| -
Stars are just pinholes in the fabric of night |
EstimatedProphet |
Jan-25-07 05:44 PM |
#134 |
| -
this thread = hillarious |
WindRavenX |
Jan-25-07 05:49 PM |
#141 |
| -
The speed of light is different in different places at different times |
slackmaster |
Jan-25-07 06:45 PM |
#171 |
| -
There is no such thing at time. Everything is happening at this moment |
Nikia |
Jan-25-07 08:27 PM |
#183 |
| -
Your intellectualism allows you to be duped by Satan's trickery |
cain_7777 |
Jan-31-07 02:52 PM |
#194 |
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