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Thu Jan-11-07 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #10 |
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Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 11:31 AM by patrice
Knowing is really some combination of knowing and not-knowing. = "Even if all due dilligence is taken ignorance can still play a part."
Humans are limited.
"If thats the case then every action we take can result in a cascade of sin attaching to us in a butterfly effect run amuck."
Yep! Except that the "cascade" does not absolutely "run amuck" (i.e. even Chaos is not Absolute). Where that "cascade" is influenced by Realities (that we usually refer to as "good") is what each person is called to "put his/her Faith in". With or without "due diligence", that's still Faith without quid-pro-quo.
"Me, Me . . ." The definition of "me" (I, you, he, she, it) is a semantic issue. Don't mistake the words for the Reality.
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| -Proxy War is a Mortal Sin. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 10:03 AM |
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Need to clarify terms |
Az |
Jan-11-07 10:07 AM |
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That denies Creation. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 10:18 AM |
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Is it action or knowledge that binds sin |
Az |
Jan-11-07 10:29 AM |
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Neither, if you're female and Irish Catholic |
Warpy |
Jan-11-07 10:44 AM |
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We must reach as far as we can with our minds, hearts, and hands |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 10:49 AM |
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That seems to avoid the question |
Az |
Jan-11-07 11:00 AM |
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I agree |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 11:26 AM |
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Semantics are perhaps the most important issue of any discussion |
Az |
Jan-11-07 11:30 AM |
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For Social goals, I agree. I love semantics and semiotics. But, |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 11:32 AM |
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But we do not experience reality |
Az |
Jan-11-07 11:37 AM |
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I think of it as more dynamic than that. More fluid, because "we" and |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 11:45 AM |
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Responsibility |
Az |
Jan-11-07 12:07 PM |
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Thanks! for committing to a deeper look at the question. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 12:44 PM |
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But Not absolutely ir-relevant either. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 11:47 AM |
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So then an attitude or a belief |
MistressOverdone |
Jan-11-07 11:59 AM |
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Could be . . . |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 12:59 PM |
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God? Satan? |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 10:23 AM |
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All war is proxy war |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 10:41 AM |
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Denial of Reality is not an "objective" definition of sin? |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 10:51 AM |
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I don't know wtf you are talking about |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 11:00 AM |
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Not to Iraqis. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 11:01 AM |
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You're still not making sense. n/t |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 11:04 AM |
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Sin is a charged word |
Az |
Jan-11-07 11:05 AM |
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Death and Destruction are not semantic issues. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 11:52 AM |
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No doubt, but how does that relate to your original statement |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 12:00 PM |
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As I have said, an "objective" definition of sin isn't necessary. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 12:08 PM |
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Since you get to make up the definitions, |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 12:14 PM |
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As I have said, each person is responsible for their own "definitions" |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 12:54 PM |
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You ended any need for discussion with your dogmatic statement |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 01:01 PM |
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To and For you. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:03 PM |
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Sin is a matter of opinion |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 01:06 PM |
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The thing that I am referring to with the word "sin" (and it's related |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:11 PM |
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There is no rebuttal for circular logic. n/t |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 01:14 PM |
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I begin by admitting that fact, what |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:19 PM |
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These posts are made up of WORDS |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 01:31 PM |
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To you. Is yours the Only Understanding? |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:32 PM |
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You are making MY point |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 01:40 PM |
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I belive the subject is Language. And Language relative to Action. n/t |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:41 PM |
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Coulda fooled me! |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 01:44 PM |
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That is what you said, "It's all just words." I said "To you". |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:49 PM |
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Just like your statement "Sin is sin" |
cosmik debris |
Jan-11-07 02:00 PM |
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Sin isn't just a word. It is also an action. All things are not just words. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 02:13 PM |
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I write for a living. Thanks. n/t |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:50 PM |
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Everyone makes up his/her own definitions. We might share. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:01 PM |
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People as things - that's the heart of sin. |
bryant69 |
Jan-11-07 11:07 AM |
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A fellow Pratchett fan! |
Az |
Jan-11-07 11:11 AM |
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That's a fair characterization actually. |
bryant69 |
Jan-11-07 11:18 AM |
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Adams' problem |
Az |
Jan-11-07 11:20 AM |
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Pratchett? More please? |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 11:38 AM |
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Pratchett |
Az |
Jan-11-07 11:42 AM |
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A litte furher out than Tom Robbins "Another Roadside Attraction" |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 11:50 AM |
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Quotes |
bryant69 |
Jan-11-07 02:14 PM |
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Yes. |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 11:36 AM |
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I think it's even more basic than that |
bryant69 |
Jan-11-07 02:15 PM |
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I don't believe in sin. nt |
Evoman |
Jan-11-07 12:21 PM |
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Do you believe in what is referred to as "error"? |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:04 PM |
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Error? |
Evoman |
Jan-11-07 01:27 PM |
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Yes, and, by extension, I made a mistake about the quality |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:29 PM |
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Yes, I guess I would have to believe in errors. |
Evoman |
Jan-11-07 09:37 PM |
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Thanks All! For the pleasure of your Conversation. Hare Krsna! n/t |
patrice |
Jan-11-07 01:37 PM |
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There's absolutely no evidence sin exists. |
Zhade |
Jan-13-07 03:02 PM |
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