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Response to Reply #34
43. I'm sorry your belief in christian supremacy makes you think you're better than non-christians.
Anyone who claims to believe in the christian god IS a christian unless you can prove otherwise.

Trying to narrow the definition to exclude people who might reflect badly on your religion won't work.

And your belief that certain people aren't good enough to be christian is prejudiced.
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  -Rick Warren is wrong. Hitler was NOT an Atheist. Quixote1818  Dec-27-06 11:40 PM   #0 
  - straightdope is as credible as drudge.  beam me up scottie   Dec-27-06 11:42 PM   #1 
  - Do you have any examples of "Drudge-like" behavior?? nt  Kingshakabobo   Dec-28-06 12:30 AM   #30 
     - It's mostly hearsay and uninformed opinion.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:37 AM   #36 
        - Ok then. I just wouldn't compare it.....  Kingshakabobo   Dec-28-06 12:45 AM   #47 
           - Well, you got me there.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:48 AM   #51 
              - Whew! Glad we cleared that up.....  Kingshakabobo   Dec-28-06 03:36 PM   #196 
                 - I actually like Cecil.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 03:46 PM   #198 
                    - I must say I've enjoyed this thread.......  Kingshakabobo   Dec-28-06 03:55 PM   #200 
                       - Well, it is my turn to persecute them.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 03:59 PM   #202 
  - Just for the record, Hitler was NOT a vegetarian. nt  mycritters2   Dec-27-06 11:43 PM   #2 
  - Perhaps Rick can explain what he meant by this:  lumberjack_jeff   Dec-27-06 11:47 PM   #3 
  - Good post with some real info  Nikki Stone1   Dec-27-06 11:50 PM   #6 
  - The "logic" used in these cases is, obviously the good people believe in "God"  impeachdubya   Dec-27-06 11:49 PM   #4 
  - Yep. Just like the snake won't bite them if they really believe.  beam me up scottie   Dec-27-06 11:55 PM   #9 
     - Eastern Diamondback Rattlers aren't real?  TexasProgresive   Dec-28-06 05:46 AM   #134 
     - Oh, they're real enough.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 11:33 AM   #159 
     - What difference does it make what snake they handle. A poisonous  frankly_fedup2   Dec-30-06 12:25 PM   #321 
        - Um, no. All snakes are NOT created equal. Trust me, I know.  beam me up scottie   Dec-30-06 12:34 PM   #322 
           - I didn't know we lived that close to each other. I could take you to  frankly_fedup2   Dec-30-06 01:37 PM   #323 
              - Uh, that definitely wasn't me :)  beam me up scottie   Dec-30-06 03:16 PM   #326 
  - Hitler was Roman Catholic.  Dr.Phool   Dec-27-06 11:50 PM   #5 
  - Rick Warren is the vilest of scum. He is a liar and a cockroach.  beam me up scottie   Dec-27-06 11:52 PM   #7 
  - 'Wiki' is by no means infallible,  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 12:13 AM   #14 
     - Rick Warren is the one that made the claim. You think he's a "good guy" ?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:18 AM   #19 
        - That's my opinion  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 12:24 AM   #25 
           - What's there to debate?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:30 AM   #29 
           - Why don't you first explain  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 12:38 AM   #38 
              - No True Scotsman Fallacy.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:44 AM   #46 
                 - Well "accepted definition" or not,  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 01:57 AM   #92 
                    - Oh, please, history is full of millions of bigoted, racist, hating, lying christians.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:00 AM   #94 
                       - It's one thing to say you are and one thing to be...  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 02:04 AM   #98 
                       - It's one thing to think and another to know.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:12 AM   #100 
                       - dont forget the long line of bigoted, racist, hating, lying POPES  trekbiker   Dec-28-06 10:05 AM   #138 
                          - An inconvenient truth.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 11:35 AM   #160 
                             - just finished Richard Dawkins "The God Delusion"  trekbiker   Dec-28-06 03:02 PM   #189 
                                - I discovered that after * was installed and used his inaugural speech to alienate non-christians.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 03:18 PM   #193 
                                   - ...and that's terrible.  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 03:42 PM   #197 
                                      - thats the problem with Freethinkers..  trekbiker   Dec-28-06 04:32 PM   #208 
           - He seemed like a decent guy on Meet the Press  Quixote1818   Dec-28-06 12:35 AM   #35 
  - Hitler was a Christian, and Nazism was a Christian movement.  johnaries   Dec-27-06 11:53 PM   #8 
  - Yes indeed. "Gott Mitt Uns". Only atheists would come up with that slogan.  lumberjack_jeff   Dec-28-06 12:07 AM   #12 
  - Gott mit uns is Prussian slogan that had been there for hundreds of years.  JVS   Dec-28-06 12:48 AM   #49 
  - That'd be interesting news to Christians who were arrested for standing against the Nazis  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 12:41 AM   #40 
  - I'm sure the atheists and freethinkers who were killed by the Nazis would be equally surprised  impeachdubya   Dec-28-06 12:58 AM   #60 
  - And the christians who stood with them?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:59 AM   #62 
  - Don't want to argue but here is my thoughts on the matter.  rebel with a cause   Dec-28-06 01:10 AM   #70 
  - Atheists aren't blaming christians for Hitler.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:15 AM   #75 
     - Not on me.  rebel with a cause   Dec-28-06 02:20 AM   #108 
        - Oh, I'm not refuting the fact that christians died along with jews,  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:33 AM   #113 
  - as historically ignorant as it gets around here  kwassa   Dec-28-06 01:28 PM   #175 
  - I believe Hitler was an occultist.  lvx35   Dec-28-06 12:02 AM   #10 
  - Of course you do.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:07 AM   #11 
  - A 'Christian' in name only  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 12:15 AM   #16 
  - And you can tell that he doesn't believe that Jesus is the son of god how?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:16 AM   #17 
     - Neither of those men  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 12:20 AM   #21 
        - Oh, but Hitler DID live it. Just like the Crusaders and the KKK.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:25 AM   #26 
           - That's a obviously misguided opinion  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 12:35 AM   #34 
              - I'm sorry your belief in christian supremacy makes you think you're better than non-christians.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:42 AM   #43 
              - That's right. Beam me up Scottie is the one who decides who's a Christian. nt  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 12:43 AM   #45 
              - Nope, individual christians are. And, unless you're omniscient, you can't prove them wrong.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:47 AM   #48 
                 - There's no point in having a discussion if there's no accepted definition of the term being debated.  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 12:49 AM   #53 
                    - Oh, but there is a definition, it just isn't your narrow and exclusive one.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:53 AM   #57 
                    - "Nobody likes to find out they're not special."  Kingshakabobo   Dec-28-06 01:03 AM   #67 
                    - right on Scottie... n/t  trekbiker   Dec-28-06 10:10 AM   #142 
                    - So by defining all the "bad people" out of Christianity you come to a place where all Christians  impeachdubya   Dec-28-06 01:01 AM   #65 
                    - Petty response. Not particularly persuasive. nt  piedmont   Dec-28-06 02:18 AM   #106 
              - I don't claim to be a christian, but your argument has holes in it.  rebel with a cause   Dec-28-06 01:32 AM   #82 
              - I hope you're wearing your flame-proof suit!  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 01:36 AM   #83 
              - Are you omniscient? No? Then put the fallacy down and pay attention.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:46 AM   #88 
                 - I have nothing to prove to you.  rebel with a cause   Dec-28-06 02:40 AM   #117 
                    - It's hard to disagree with the facts.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:46 AM   #120 
              - You are out to badmouth Christians  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 02:02 AM   #95 
              - I have their actions as proof, I don't need to badmouth christians.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:16 AM   #103 
              - I see nowhere in this thread  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 01:58 PM   #177 
                 - Again, if you believe that immoral people can't be christians, you believe in christian supremacy.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:08 PM   #178 
                 - bmus  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 03:04 PM   #190 
                    - "christian" = someone who believes that Jesus was the son of God.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 03:10 PM   #191 
                       - I can say I'm anything, it's the doing that proves it...  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 10:34 PM   #238 
                          - You mean like how you said you were being persecuted?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 10:45 PM   #242 
                          - Oy..  opiate69   Dec-28-06 10:46 PM   #243 
                             - Like I said before,  Patchuli   Dec-29-06 12:11 AM   #258 
                                - "how people yelling about intolerance are so very intolerant"  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:21 AM   #260 
                                   - Ain't she something??  opiate69   Dec-29-06 12:28 AM   #262 
                                   - I keep getting these images of Betty Bowers in my head.  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:31 AM   #265 
                                      - ROTF! I just googled Betty..  opiate69   Dec-29-06 12:34 AM   #267 
                                   - Will you stop persecuting her you damn Evil Atheist  GreenJ   Dec-29-06 12:29 AM   #263 
                                      - ROFLMAO!!!  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:33 AM   #266 
                                         - It should be hold down "Alt" then type 0153 on the 10 key pad  opiate69   Dec-29-06 12:35 AM   #268 
                                         - When you do it in the subject line though you get this: ™  GreenJ   Dec-29-06 12:37 AM   #269 
                                         - Weird.. worked for me last night...  opiate69   Dec-29-06 12:39 AM   #272 
                                         - I've used it before too. I'm not sure why it's not working now  GreenJ   Dec-29-06 12:42 AM   #273 
                                         - Don't preview it  charlie   Dec-29-06 12:48 AM   #276 
                                         - Wow, awesome!  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:52 AM   #278 
                                         - It turns out it was because I use Opera as a web browser  GreenJ   Dec-29-06 12:53 AM   #279 
                                         - ™  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:55 AM   #284 
                                         - Ah!  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:39 AM   #271 
                                         -  charlie   Dec-29-06 12:45 AM   #275 
                                         - This is strange it works with internet explorer but not with Opera  GreenJ   Dec-29-06 12:52 AM   #277 
                                         - That's why!  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:53 AM   #280 
                                         - I love the layout of Opera  GreenJ   Dec-29-06 12:59 AM   #287 
                                         - I tried Firefox, it can't compare.  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 01:02 AM   #290 
                                         - Did you know that Hitler was a Windows user  GreenJ   Dec-29-06 01:09 AM   #293 
                                         - BSD?  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 01:25 AM   #298 
                                         - Not really, BSD actually exists  GreenJ   Dec-29-06 01:33 AM   #301 
                                         - I love that guy!  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 01:36 AM   #303 
                                         - Here's where we part ways. Good day, MADAME!  charlie   Dec-29-06 01:17 AM   #297 
                                         - I knew it!  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 01:28 AM   #300 
                                         - ™  charlie   Dec-29-06 12:54 AM   #282 
                                         - ™  charlie   Dec-29-06 12:58 AM   #286 
                                         - Hehe.. must be Jee-zus fucking with you !  opiate69   Dec-29-06 12:58 AM   #285 
                                         - LOL! LOL! LOL!  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 01:00 AM   #289 
                                         - Teach us something else. I'm sooooooo board and would love  frankly_fedup2   Jan-01-07 02:15 PM   #327 
                 - "I see nowhere in this thread  opiate69   Dec-28-06 09:33 PM   #229 
              - I agree with you  Quixote1818   Dec-28-06 12:50 AM   #54 
                 - And the most tolerant position is that no religious belief makes anyone morally superior.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:55 AM   #58 
                 - You may want to think that over a little bit  Quixote1818   Dec-28-06 01:24 AM   #80 
                    - I stand by what I said, not by what he or anyone else said.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:37 AM   #84 
                       - But you, bmus  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 02:15 AM   #102 
                          - Nope, I'm the tolerant one, I'm not claiming moral superiority because of my religious beliefs,  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:17 AM   #105 
                          - Pardon, me  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 02:21 AM   #109 
                             - Anyone who claims that christians can't behave immorally is a religious bigot.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:29 AM   #110 
                                - It's like they've never heard of SIN or something. Must not be true Christians. nt  piedmont   Dec-28-06 02:31 AM   #111 
                                - Have they never read their bibles???  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:34 AM   #114 
                                - "Anyone who claims that christians can't behave immorally is a religious bigot."  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 02:17 PM   #179 
                                   - Oh brother. When did you change your name to "Anyone"?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:29 PM   #183 
                          - okay... and what Whackjob said this??  trekbiker   Dec-28-06 10:25 AM   #147 
                             - And who sent a bear to rip some kids to pieces because they made fun of a bald guy?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:25 PM   #165 
                                - yeah the old bald man and the bear story.. 2nd chapter 2nd Kings...  trekbiker   Dec-28-06 04:26 PM   #207 
                                   - Me too.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 04:38 PM   #211 
                 - "The key is tolerance and understanding."  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 02:21 PM   #180 
                    - You're being "persecuted"? How dare you make that claim in a thread about the Holocaust?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:26 PM   #182 
                    - Persecution ranges in degrees  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 02:48 PM   #186 
                       - Now I'm persecuting you? Are you fucking serious???  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:53 PM   #188 
                       - Help! Help! I'm being repressed!  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 03:48 PM   #199 
                       - That's the most elastic definition of persecution I've ever seen...  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-28-06 06:37 PM   #217 
                       - Here's a little something to help you separate the "degrees" of persecution:  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 10:40 PM   #240 
                          - BMUS...please, please tell me...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 10:44 PM   #241 
                          - I think he's still trying.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 10:49 PM   #245 
                             - What a fucking scumbag...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 11:05 PM   #249 
                                - See, you get it.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 11:12 PM   #250 
                                   - Yeah, I know...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 11:23 PM   #251 
                                      - I think he does a good job.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 11:26 PM   #252 
                                         - Yeah, but...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 11:46 PM   #253 
                                         - I think you'd be surprised.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 11:50 PM   #254 
                                         - Exactly...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-29-06 12:05 AM   #255 
                                         - That's a job for your friendly neighborhood atheist.  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:09 AM   #256 
                                         - I suppose so...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-29-06 12:54 AM   #281 
                                         - Sleep tight!  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 01:03 AM   #291 
                          - I've never seen so much energy  Patchuli   Dec-29-06 12:14 AM   #259 
                             - Misunderstood? I don't think so. And I quote: " Persecution ranges in degrees  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:30 AM   #264 
                    - I'm sorry--it sounded like you said "Christians are persecuted"  Orrex   Dec-28-06 10:03 PM   #236 
                    - Persecution can be severe  Patchuli   Dec-29-06 12:55 AM   #283 
                       - Hyperbole, anyone?  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:59 AM   #288 
                       - By your definition, everything is persecution  Orrex   Dec-29-06 11:22 AM   #309 
                       - Call it whatever you like,  Patchuli   Dec-29-06 12:33 PM   #310 
                          - Even your cited definition doesn't really support your case  Orrex   Dec-29-06 12:46 PM   #311 
                             - Orrex, that is merely your opinion  Patchuli   Dec-29-06 01:18 PM   #313 
                                - ....  opiate69   Dec-29-06 01:24 PM   #314 
                       - Persecuted?  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Dec-30-06 03:59 AM   #316 
                    - Persecuted?  GreenJ   Dec-28-06 10:53 PM   #247 
  - I think he probably was a Christian but I can't say so with 100% certainty  Quixote1818   Dec-28-06 12:20 AM   #22 
     - The founding fathers didn't try to pass themselves off as christians.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:32 AM   #32 
     - I think you may be correct in avoiding the certainty of the absolute  LanternWaste   Dec-28-06 10:57 AM   #153 
  - I guess you haven't noticed that there are plenty of  China_cat   Dec-28-06 12:15 AM   #15 
  - I've never heard that at all.  lvx35   Dec-28-06 12:25 AM   #27 
  - You can start with the video game  China_cat   Dec-28-06 12:34 AM   #33 
     - And all Christians believe those things.  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 12:38 AM   #37 
     - Reading is fundamental...  opiate69   Dec-28-06 12:41 AM   #41 
     - The only broad generalization was the "all" in your strawman. nt  Kingshakabobo   Dec-28-06 01:13 AM   #73 
     - I never said that. Don't put words in my post that aren't there.  China_cat   Dec-28-06 06:11 AM   #136 
     - Christians are all alike  Patchuli   Dec-29-06 01:08 AM   #292 
        - Quit it with the strawmen, Einstein..  opiate69   Dec-29-06 01:12 AM   #294 
        - WWJMUSA?  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 01:26 AM   #299 
        - "Christians are all alike, SQUAWK!" "Christians are all alike!"  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 01:13 AM   #295 
     - I've heard some dumb Robertson quotes, but I need some kind of link for that one.  JVS   Dec-28-06 12:43 AM   #44 
     - It was...several of them.  China_cat   Dec-28-06 06:07 AM   #135 
     - okay left behind people. right....  lvx35   Dec-28-06 01:15 AM   #74 
  - Of course, the refutation of THAT stupidity is: Would Christ actually be so  WinkyDink   Dec-28-06 10:12 AM   #143 
  - Perhaps you should read this article.  johnaries   Dec-28-06 12:17 AM   #18 
  - The Barmen Declaration was a reaction to the "German Christian" movement  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 12:22 AM   #23 
  - "Maybe Christians should decide what a Christian is." OK.  johnaries   Dec-28-06 12:40 AM   #39 
     - There were Christians who stood against Hitler. Not that they'd be respected by  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 12:42 AM   #42 
     - And that somehow proves Hitler wasn't a True Christian ?  opiate69   Dec-28-06 12:48 AM   #50 
     - Sure they'd be respected.  trotsky   Dec-28-06 11:52 AM   #163 
     - Since when did Hitler decide/ care who was and wasn't Christian?  JVS   Dec-28-06 01:52 AM   #91 
     - Can you answer his question?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:57 AM   #93 
        - Whoever has authority to excommunicate  JVS   Dec-28-06 02:13 AM   #101 
        - Hitler wasn't excommunicated and he never denounced his christianity.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:19 AM   #107 
           - You seem very happy to take him at his word rather than establish that he was practicing  JVS   Dec-28-06 02:32 AM   #112 
              - You must be joking.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:37 AM   #115 
                 - I'm not claiming that he isn't one. You are making a conflated claim  JVS   Dec-28-06 02:43 AM   #119 
                    - Nope, read my posts again, Hitler was the one who claimed he was a christian.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:48 AM   #121 
                       - You need to prove you points rather than just state them as fact  JVS   Dec-28-06 03:15 AM   #124 
                          - You asked for it...  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 03:29 AM   #126 
        - Other Christians, of course. They are the most judgemental of all  frankly_fedup2   Dec-30-06 01:41 PM   #324 
           - There's still time for you, lol!  beam me up scottie   Dec-30-06 03:12 PM   #325 
     - A Christian is someone who believes Jesus died to atone for sin  toddaa   Dec-28-06 01:04 PM   #171 
     - Substitutionary atonement is one view, not one I subscribe to  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 04:44 PM   #212 
     - I think Torquemada was in charge of that, for a while. nt  impeachdubya   Dec-28-06 04:33 PM   #209 
  - The gospels aren't the documents ranting about the jews, the aryan race.  lvx35   Dec-28-06 12:53 AM   #56 
  - You need look no further than Martin Luther, actually.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:01 AM   #64 
  - Nietzsche wasn't anti-Semetic  catbert836   Dec-29-06 01:30 PM   #315 
  - Thanks for reminding me to renew my sub to Freethought Today!  Dr.Phool   Dec-28-06 01:00 AM   #63 
  - But Jesus wasn't a Jew. He was a good Aryan.  NCevilDUer   Dec-28-06 12:49 AM   #52 
  - Christians (Protestants at least) rejected the notion that one could be  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 12:12 AM   #13 
  - Well isn't that cute?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:20 AM   #20 
  - So you get to decide who is and who is not a Christian? Who died and made you God?  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 12:23 AM   #24 
  - Nope, christians do. And unless you're GOD, you can't prove them wrong.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:50 AM   #55 
  - The point is tha NO ONE gets to decide who's a "true" Christian  piedmont   Dec-28-06 01:06 AM   #69 
  - The only requirement for claiming christianity for your own religion  China_cat   Dec-28-06 02:31 PM   #184 
     - Good post, China_cat...nt  SidDithers   Dec-28-06 03:13 PM   #192 
  - And probably no worse.  rebel with a cause   Dec-28-06 01:52 AM   #90 
  - The only problem with that  jgraz   Dec-28-06 02:03 AM   #96 
  - Well, we're not the ones claiming absolute knowledge about his beliefs.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:09 AM   #99 
     - evidently you mistake me for someone who said Hitler did not claim to be a Christian.  rebel with a cause   Dec-28-06 02:49 AM   #122 
        - Where did I say you made that claim?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:52 AM   #123 
  - I suggest we enlist Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and other famous atheist to draft a declaration  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-28-06 06:42 PM   #218 
     - Ah, a pre-emptive No True Atheist declaration.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 06:59 PM   #219 
        - I have it from good sources that Stalin put SUGAR in his porridge!  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-28-06 07:02 PM   #220 
           - Well, that settles it.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 07:07 PM   #221 
  - Apparently, that was a minority of the Protestants. Which is why  johnaries   Dec-28-06 12:28 AM   #28 
     - But at DU both progressive and conservative Christians catch crap from the  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 12:30 AM   #31 
        - At DU, no religion is revered, sorry. If you can't reasonably discuss the issue, bow out.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:58 AM   #59 
        - Yeah, BMUS.. you big meanie!  opiate69   Dec-28-06 01:02 AM   #66 
           - How have you been, you godless heathen scum?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:10 AM   #71 
           - Did you know there are gay Christians? nt  mycritters2   Dec-28-06 01:11 AM   #72 
              - Did you know there are christians who want to kill gays?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:18 AM   #77 
              - Depends on who you ask...  SidDithers   Dec-28-06 03:19 PM   #194 
        - That is sometimes true, or at least often enough. And I apologize  johnaries   Dec-28-06 12:59 AM   #61 
        - THere's a difference in how that label is used, too.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:04 AM   #68 
        - "No distinction" is wrong, but so is absolute, qualitative distinction  jgraz   Dec-28-06 01:43 AM   #87 
        - "brights"???? that label will die a deserved death..  trekbiker   Dec-28-06 11:08 AM   #155 
           - That's supposed to be an insult, I think, even though none of us call ourselves that.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 11:56 AM   #164 
              - I know, and to think the "The Brights' Net" is right here in my  trekbiker   Dec-28-06 04:51 PM   #213 
                 - I agree.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 05:06 PM   #214 
  - Hitlers' religion is irrelevant. The Holocaust was driven by Christian ideology.  jgraz   Dec-28-06 01:16 AM   #76 
  - Yeah, even if you could convince me Hitler wasn't a "true" Christian...  piedmont   Dec-28-06 01:39 AM   #86 
     - Maybe like a lot of Americans today  rebel with a cause   Dec-28-06 02:03 AM   #97 
  - Why does everyone seem to be missing your primary points? Rick Warren is WRONG  0rganism   Dec-28-06 01:20 AM   #78 
  - Thank you.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:23 AM   #79 
  - Well put! I hope you write to Media Matters with your thoughts!  Quixote1818   Dec-28-06 01:27 AM   #81 
     - And thank you.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:49 AM   #89 
        - Thanks, I just hope enough people write Media Matters  Quixote1818   Dec-28-06 02:17 AM   #104 
           - Now that's a good idea.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:39 AM   #116 
  - Link to Media Matters here. PLEASE CONTACT THEM!  Quixote1818   Dec-28-06 01:39 AM   #85 
  - I'll send them what I've got on hand.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:42 AM   #118 
  - Uhm, "Hitler was an atheist" = cheap shot at atheists?  rman   Dec-28-06 03:15 AM   #125 
  - Uhm, 'cuz he wasn't?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 03:31 AM   #127 
  - It's also a cowardly evasion of responsibility by a Christian  jgraz   Dec-28-06 03:57 AM   #129 
  - I agree with your analysis  rman   Dec-28-06 08:10 AM   #137 
  - It is a shot at atheists if your reasoning is that part of why Hitler  renie408   Dec-28-06 10:17 AM   #145 
     - So Hitler being an atheist or not is only an issue if you believe Warren's  rman   Dec-28-06 10:41 AM   #151 
        - No, that's not what I meant.  renie408   Dec-28-06 11:02 AM   #154 
           - Actually i was asking if the OP meant that  rman   Dec-28-06 11:32 AM   #158 
  - Eh, Warren's a goob  charlie   Dec-28-06 03:46 AM   #128 
  - I was going to say what an idiot, but then I read a little further  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 04:09 AM   #130 
     - Yeah, he knows what he is doing  charlie   Dec-28-06 04:31 AM   #131 
     - An Idiot whose numbers are wrong  FrenchCori   Dec-30-06 10:22 AM   #317 
     - Oh I take EVERYTHING this wretched excuse for a human says with a ton of salt.  beam me up scottie   Dec-30-06 10:44 AM   #320 
     - he forgot a lot of secularists  Bill McBlueState   Dec-30-06 10:36 AM   #318 
        - I know.  beam me up scottie   Dec-30-06 10:41 AM   #319 
  - Rick Warren is a BIGOT and he is, of course, wrong.  Swamp Rat   Dec-28-06 04:54 AM   #132 
  - I will respectfully disagree and suggest that it's  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 02:25 PM   #181 
  - Nazi uniform; "Gott mit uns"  LynnTheDem   Dec-28-06 05:12 AM   #133 
  - See prior thread: Hitler Celebrated Christmas  IanDB1   Dec-28-06 10:08 AM   #139 
  - Maybe He Was. I Say It Carries No Relevance Anyway.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-28-06 10:09 AM   #140 
  - I think that people like Rick Warren  renie408   Dec-28-06 10:15 AM   #144 
     - Know What I Do About Worthless Premises Like That?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-28-06 10:28 AM   #148 
        - you are right  renie408   Dec-28-06 10:38 AM   #150 
           - "Sometimes I would just like the same respect."  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-28-06 11:24 AM   #156 
           - good for you... you should move to California.  trekbiker   Dec-28-06 11:28 AM   #157 
  - I thought the Inner Circle and AH were more Nordic-myth oriented.  WinkyDink   Dec-28-06 10:09 AM   #141 
  - In Hitler's own words.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-28-06 10:20 AM   #146 
  - Case closed in my opinion  Stuckinthebush   Dec-28-06 10:51 AM   #152 
  - Rick Warren's Church Needs To Be Investigated.  Greg Helmsley   Dec-28-06 10:32 AM   #149 
  - Yes, I agree.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 11:46 AM   #162 
     - Thanks  Greg Helmsley   Dec-28-06 12:48 PM   #169 
        - Have you ever heard of Creflo Dollar?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:06 PM   #172 
           - Yes :), I've heard of him.  Greg Helmsley   Dec-28-06 01:16 PM   #174 
              - You know, you should start a separate thread about that issue.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:41 PM   #176 
  - Hitler was a Christian.  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 11:45 AM   #161 
  - "a vile boil on the ass of humanity"  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:29 PM   #166 
     - What can I say, BMUS?  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 03:35 PM   #195 
        - You are truly evil.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 04:00 PM   #203 
           - Am not! I'm a Christian! The Bible tells me I'm good and holy!  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 04:04 PM   #204 
              - My standard response to people who ask me "Don't you want to go to heaven?" :  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 04:06 PM   #205 
                 - People have actually used that line??  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 04:15 PM   #206 
                    - Oh, you'd be surprised what they tell you when they find out you're a non-believer.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 04:33 PM   #210 
                       - "used to tell my husband" aaahahaha.....  trekbiker   Dec-28-06 05:57 PM   #215 
                       - I know, I saw it on a bumper sticker in Vermont and it stayed with me.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 06:05 PM   #216 
                          - You were in the Marine Corps as well?  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 08:52 PM   #222 
                             - Weird, eh?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 09:09 PM   #224 
                                - Hmm...perhaps...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 09:16 PM   #227 
                                   - " unsolved murder/suicide, drugs, whores, all kinds of debauchery"  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 09:30 PM   #228 
                                      - My daddy brought me to a whorehouse when I was a toddler...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 09:45 PM   #234 
                                         - Ah, but lots of christians love me too.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 10:01 PM   #235 
                                            - Mmm...I just enjoy the rise you get out of some...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 10:07 PM   #237 
                       - I bet she loved that one =)  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 08:54 PM   #223 
                          - Oh yeah, I was her FAVOURITE, right from the start.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 09:10 PM   #225 
                             - And then...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 09:14 PM   #226 
                                - It was one of the most peaceful concerts I've ever been to.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 09:34 PM   #230 
                                   - OF course it was..  opiate69   Dec-28-06 09:39 PM   #231 
                                   - sigh...  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 09:42 PM   #232 
                                   - Well of course...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 09:43 PM   #233 
  - What the hell does it matter?  varkam   Dec-28-06 12:35 PM   #167 
  - Hi varkam!  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 12:43 PM   #168 
     - I enjoy revisionism about as much as the next fellow...  varkam   Dec-28-06 12:50 PM   #170 
        - That's why I said I was so sick of this issue in my first post.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 01:08 PM   #173 
           - You certainly expended a lot of energy  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 02:40 PM   #185 
              - Christian supremacy makes me sick.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 02:49 PM   #187 
                 - I've never said anyone is either  Patchuli   Dec-28-06 10:38 PM   #239 
                    - Since you seem to be blind.. here are your own words again  opiate69   Dec-28-06 10:49 PM   #244 
                    - Nice.  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 10:54 PM   #248 
                    - And you point being...? nt  Patchuli   Dec-29-06 12:09 AM   #257 
                       - You can't seriously be this dense, can you?  opiate69   Dec-29-06 12:26 AM   #261 
                          - She can't be reading our posts.  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 12:38 AM   #270 
                             - That or maybe it's performance art...  GreenJ   Dec-29-06 12:44 AM   #274 
                                - It could be a fellow EAConspirator goofing on us.  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 01:14 AM   #296 
                    - Reading comprehension? Glasses?  beam me up scottie   Dec-28-06 10:52 PM   #246 
  - But...but...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-28-06 03:59 PM   #201 
  - Over 300 posts.. this thread needs more cats, I think  opiate69   Dec-29-06 01:36 AM   #302 
  - ROFLMAO!!!  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 01:38 AM   #304 
  - Holy f'ing crap  trotsky   Dec-29-06 05:19 AM   #305 
  - My new favorite  charlie   Dec-29-06 05:41 AM   #306 
     - !  beam me up scottie   Dec-29-06 05:46 AM   #307 
  - Stop lying, Rick Warren, you miserable piece of hatebased shit and admit the truth.  Rabrrrrrr   Dec-29-06 09:19 AM   #308 
     - Gadzooks  charlie   Dec-29-06 12:53 PM   #312 
 

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