| -Rick Warren is wrong. Hitler was NOT an Atheist. |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-27-06 11:40 PM |
#0 |
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straightdope is as credible as drudge. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-27-06 11:42 PM |
#1 |
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Do you have any examples of "Drudge-like" behavior?? nt |
Kingshakabobo |
Dec-28-06 12:30 AM |
#30 |
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It's mostly hearsay and uninformed opinion. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:37 AM |
#36 |
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Ok then. I just wouldn't compare it..... |
Kingshakabobo |
Dec-28-06 12:45 AM |
#47 |
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Well, you got me there. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:48 AM |
#51 |
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Whew! Glad we cleared that up..... |
Kingshakabobo |
Dec-28-06 03:36 PM |
#196 |
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I actually like Cecil. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 03:46 PM |
#198 |
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I must say I've enjoyed this thread....... |
Kingshakabobo |
Dec-28-06 03:55 PM |
#200 |
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Well, it is my turn to persecute them. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 03:59 PM |
#202 |
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Just for the record, Hitler was NOT a vegetarian. nt |
mycritters2 |
Dec-27-06 11:43 PM |
#2 |
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Perhaps Rick can explain what he meant by this: |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-27-06 11:47 PM |
#3 |
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Good post with some real info |
Nikki Stone1 |
Dec-27-06 11:50 PM |
#6 |
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The "logic" used in these cases is, obviously the good people believe in "God" |
impeachdubya |
Dec-27-06 11:49 PM |
#4 |
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Yep. Just like the snake won't bite them if they really believe. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-27-06 11:55 PM |
#9 |
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Eastern Diamondback Rattlers aren't real? |
TexasProgresive |
Dec-28-06 05:46 AM |
#134 |
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Oh, they're real enough. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 11:33 AM |
#159 |
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What difference does it make what snake they handle. A poisonous |
frankly_fedup2 |
Dec-30-06 12:25 PM |
#321 |
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Um, no. All snakes are NOT created equal. Trust me, I know. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-30-06 12:34 PM |
#322 |
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I didn't know we lived that close to each other. I could take you to |
frankly_fedup2 |
Dec-30-06 01:37 PM |
#323 |
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Uh, that definitely wasn't me :) |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-30-06 03:16 PM |
#326 |
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Hitler was Roman Catholic. |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-27-06 11:50 PM |
#5 |
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Rick Warren is the vilest of scum. He is a liar and a cockroach. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-27-06 11:52 PM |
#7 |
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'Wiki' is by no means infallible, |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 12:13 AM |
#14 |
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Rick Warren is the one that made the claim. You think he's a "good guy" ? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:18 AM |
#19 |
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That's my opinion |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 12:24 AM |
#25 |
| -
What's there to debate? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:30 AM |
#29 |
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Why don't you first explain |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 12:38 AM |
#38 |
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No True Scotsman Fallacy. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:44 AM |
#46 |
| -
Well "accepted definition" or not, |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 01:57 AM |
#92 |
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Oh, please, history is full of millions of bigoted, racist, hating, lying christians. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:00 AM |
#94 |
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It's one thing to say you are and one thing to be... |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 02:04 AM |
#98 |
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It's one thing to think and another to know. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:12 AM |
#100 |
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dont forget the long line of bigoted, racist, hating, lying POPES |
trekbiker |
Dec-28-06 10:05 AM |
#138 |
| -
An inconvenient truth. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 11:35 AM |
#160 |
| -
just finished Richard Dawkins "The God Delusion" |
trekbiker |
Dec-28-06 03:02 PM |
#189 |
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I discovered that after * was installed and used his inaugural speech to alienate non-christians. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 03:18 PM |
#193 |
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...and that's terrible. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 03:42 PM |
#197 |
| -
thats the problem with Freethinkers.. |
trekbiker |
Dec-28-06 04:32 PM |
#208 |
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He seemed like a decent guy on Meet the Press |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-28-06 12:35 AM |
#35 |
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Hitler was a Christian, and Nazism was a Christian movement. |
johnaries |
Dec-27-06 11:53 PM |
#8 |
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Yes indeed. "Gott Mitt Uns". Only atheists would come up with that slogan. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-28-06 12:07 AM |
#12 |
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Gott mit uns is Prussian slogan that had been there for hundreds of years. |
JVS |
Dec-28-06 12:48 AM |
#49 |
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That'd be interesting news to Christians who were arrested for standing against the Nazis |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 12:41 AM |
#40 |
| -
I'm sure the atheists and freethinkers who were killed by the Nazis would be equally surprised |
impeachdubya |
Dec-28-06 12:58 AM |
#60 |
| -
And the christians who stood with them? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:59 AM |
#62 |
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Don't want to argue but here is my thoughts on the matter. |
rebel with a cause |
Dec-28-06 01:10 AM |
#70 |
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Atheists aren't blaming christians for Hitler. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:15 AM |
#75 |
| -
Not on me. |
rebel with a cause |
Dec-28-06 02:20 AM |
#108 |
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Oh, I'm not refuting the fact that christians died along with jews, |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:33 AM |
#113 |
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as historically ignorant as it gets around here |
kwassa |
Dec-28-06 01:28 PM |
#175 |
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I believe Hitler was an occultist. |
lvx35 |
Dec-28-06 12:02 AM |
#10 |
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Of course you do. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:07 AM |
#11 |
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A 'Christian' in name only |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 12:15 AM |
#16 |
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And you can tell that he doesn't believe that Jesus is the son of god how? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:16 AM |
#17 |
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Neither of those men |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 12:20 AM |
#21 |
| -
Oh, but Hitler DID live it. Just like the Crusaders and the KKK. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:25 AM |
#26 |
| -
That's a obviously misguided opinion |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 12:35 AM |
#34 |
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I'm sorry your belief in christian supremacy makes you think you're better than non-christians. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:42 AM |
#43 |
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That's right. Beam me up Scottie is the one who decides who's a Christian. nt |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 12:43 AM |
#45 |
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Nope, individual christians are. And, unless you're omniscient, you can't prove them wrong. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:47 AM |
#48 |
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There's no point in having a discussion if there's no accepted definition of the term being debated. |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 12:49 AM |
#53 |
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Oh, but there is a definition, it just isn't your narrow and exclusive one. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:53 AM |
#57 |
| -
"Nobody likes to find out they're not special." |
Kingshakabobo |
Dec-28-06 01:03 AM |
#67 |
| -
right on Scottie... n/t |
trekbiker |
Dec-28-06 10:10 AM |
#142 |
| -
So by defining all the "bad people" out of Christianity you come to a place where all Christians |
impeachdubya |
Dec-28-06 01:01 AM |
#65 |
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Petty response. Not particularly persuasive. nt |
piedmont |
Dec-28-06 02:18 AM |
#106 |
| -
I don't claim to be a christian, but your argument has holes in it. |
rebel with a cause |
Dec-28-06 01:32 AM |
#82 |
| -
I hope you're wearing your flame-proof suit! |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 01:36 AM |
#83 |
| -
Are you omniscient? No? Then put the fallacy down and pay attention. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:46 AM |
#88 |
| -
I have nothing to prove to you. |
rebel with a cause |
Dec-28-06 02:40 AM |
#117 |
| -
It's hard to disagree with the facts. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:46 AM |
#120 |
| -
You are out to badmouth Christians |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 02:02 AM |
#95 |
| -
I have their actions as proof, I don't need to badmouth christians. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:16 AM |
#103 |
| -
I see nowhere in this thread |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 01:58 PM |
#177 |
| -
Again, if you believe that immoral people can't be christians, you believe in christian supremacy. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:08 PM |
#178 |
| -
bmus |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 03:04 PM |
#190 |
| -
"christian" = someone who believes that Jesus was the son of God. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 03:10 PM |
#191 |
| -
I can say I'm anything, it's the doing that proves it... |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 10:34 PM |
#238 |
| -
You mean like how you said you were being persecuted? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 10:45 PM |
#242 |
| -
Oy.. |
opiate69 |
Dec-28-06 10:46 PM |
#243 |
| -
Like I said before, |
Patchuli |
Dec-29-06 12:11 AM |
#258 |
| -
"how people yelling about intolerance are so very intolerant" |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:21 AM |
#260 |
| -
Ain't she something?? |
opiate69 |
Dec-29-06 12:28 AM |
#262 |
| -
I keep getting these images of Betty Bowers in my head. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:31 AM |
#265 |
| -
ROTF! I just googled Betty.. |
opiate69 |
Dec-29-06 12:34 AM |
#267 |
| -
Will you stop persecuting her you damn Evil Atheist |
GreenJ |
Dec-29-06 12:29 AM |
#263 |
| -
ROFLMAO!!! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:33 AM |
#266 |
| -
It should be hold down "Alt" then type 0153 on the 10 key pad |
opiate69 |
Dec-29-06 12:35 AM |
#268 |
| -
When you do it in the subject line though you get this: ™ |
GreenJ |
Dec-29-06 12:37 AM |
#269 |
| -
Weird.. worked for me last night... |
opiate69 |
Dec-29-06 12:39 AM |
#272 |
| -
I've used it before too. I'm not sure why it's not working now |
GreenJ |
Dec-29-06 12:42 AM |
#273 |
| -
Don't preview it |
charlie |
Dec-29-06 12:48 AM |
#276 |
| -
Wow, awesome! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:52 AM |
#278 |
| -
It turns out it was because I use Opera as a web browser |
GreenJ |
Dec-29-06 12:53 AM |
#279 |
| -
™ |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:55 AM |
#284 |
| -
Ah! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:39 AM |
#271 |
| -
™ |
charlie |
Dec-29-06 12:45 AM |
#275 |
| -
This is strange ™ it works with internet explorer but not with Opera |
GreenJ |
Dec-29-06 12:52 AM |
#277 |
| -
That's why! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:53 AM |
#280 |
| -
I love the layout of Opera |
GreenJ |
Dec-29-06 12:59 AM |
#287 |
| -
I tried Firefox, it can't compare. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 01:02 AM |
#290 |
| -
Did you know that Hitler was a Windows user |
GreenJ |
Dec-29-06 01:09 AM |
#293 |
| -
BSD? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 01:25 AM |
#298 |
| -
Not really, BSD actually exists |
GreenJ |
Dec-29-06 01:33 AM |
#301 |
| -
I love that guy! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 01:36 AM |
#303 |
| -
Here's where we part ways. Good day, MADAME! |
charlie |
Dec-29-06 01:17 AM |
#297 |
| -
I knew it! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 01:28 AM |
#300 |
| -
™ |
charlie |
Dec-29-06 12:54 AM |
#282 |
| -
™ |
charlie |
Dec-29-06 12:58 AM |
#286 |
| -
Hehe.. must be Jee-zus fucking with you ! |
opiate69 |
Dec-29-06 12:58 AM |
#285 |
| -
LOL! LOL! LOL! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 01:00 AM |
#289 |
| -
Teach us something else. I'm sooooooo board and would love |
frankly_fedup2 |
Jan-01-07 02:15 PM |
#327 |
| -
"I see nowhere in this thread |
opiate69 |
Dec-28-06 09:33 PM |
#229 |
| -
I agree with you |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-28-06 12:50 AM |
#54 |
| -
And the most tolerant position is that no religious belief makes anyone morally superior. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:55 AM |
#58 |
| -
You may want to think that over a little bit |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-28-06 01:24 AM |
#80 |
| -
I stand by what I said, not by what he or anyone else said. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:37 AM |
#84 |
| -
But you, bmus |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 02:15 AM |
#102 |
| -
Nope, I'm the tolerant one, I'm not claiming moral superiority because of my religious beliefs, |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:17 AM |
#105 |
| -
Pardon, me |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 02:21 AM |
#109 |
| -
Anyone who claims that christians can't behave immorally is a religious bigot. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:29 AM |
#110 |
| -
It's like they've never heard of SIN or something. Must not be true Christians. nt |
piedmont |
Dec-28-06 02:31 AM |
#111 |
| -
Have they never read their bibles??? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:34 AM |
#114 |
| -
"Anyone who claims that christians can't behave immorally is a religious bigot." |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 02:17 PM |
#179 |
| -
Oh brother. When did you change your name to "Anyone"? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:29 PM |
#183 |
| -
okay... and what Whackjob said this?? |
trekbiker |
Dec-28-06 10:25 AM |
#147 |
| -
And who sent a bear to rip some kids to pieces because they made fun of a bald guy? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:25 PM |
#165 |
| -
yeah the old bald man and the bear story.. 2nd chapter 2nd Kings... |
trekbiker |
Dec-28-06 04:26 PM |
#207 |
| -
Me too. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 04:38 PM |
#211 |
| -
"The key is tolerance and understanding." |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 02:21 PM |
#180 |
| -
You're being "persecuted"? How dare you make that claim in a thread about the Holocaust? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:26 PM |
#182 |
| -
Persecution ranges in degrees |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 02:48 PM |
#186 |
| -
Now I'm persecuting you? Are you fucking serious??? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:53 PM |
#188 |
| -
Help! Help! I'm being repressed! |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 03:48 PM |
#199 |
| -
That's the most elastic definition of persecution I've ever seen... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-28-06 06:37 PM |
#217 |
| -
Here's a little something to help you separate the "degrees" of persecution: |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 10:40 PM |
#240 |
| -
BMUS...please, please tell me... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 10:44 PM |
#241 |
| -
I think he's still trying. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 10:49 PM |
#245 |
| -
What a fucking scumbag... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 11:05 PM |
#249 |
| -
See, you get it. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 11:12 PM |
#250 |
| -
Yeah, I know... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 11:23 PM |
#251 |
| -
I think he does a good job. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 11:26 PM |
#252 |
| -
Yeah, but... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 11:46 PM |
#253 |
| -
I think you'd be surprised. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 11:50 PM |
#254 |
| -
Exactly... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-29-06 12:05 AM |
#255 |
| -
That's a job for your friendly neighborhood atheist. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:09 AM |
#256 |
| -
I suppose so... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-29-06 12:54 AM |
#281 |
| -
Sleep tight! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 01:03 AM |
#291 |
| -
I've never seen so much energy |
Patchuli |
Dec-29-06 12:14 AM |
#259 |
| -
Misunderstood? I don't think so. And I quote: " Persecution ranges in degrees |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:30 AM |
#264 |
| -
I'm sorry--it sounded like you said "Christians are persecuted" |
Orrex |
Dec-28-06 10:03 PM |
#236 |
| -
Persecution can be severe |
Patchuli |
Dec-29-06 12:55 AM |
#283 |
| -
Hyperbole, anyone? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:59 AM |
#288 |
| -
By your definition, everything is persecution |
Orrex |
Dec-29-06 11:22 AM |
#309 |
| -
Call it whatever you like, |
Patchuli |
Dec-29-06 12:33 PM |
#310 |
| -
Even your cited definition doesn't really support your case |
Orrex |
Dec-29-06 12:46 PM |
#311 |
| -
Orrex, that is merely your opinion |
Patchuli |
Dec-29-06 01:18 PM |
#313 |
| -
.... |
opiate69 |
Dec-29-06 01:24 PM |
#314 |
| -
Persecuted? |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Dec-30-06 03:59 AM |
#316 |
| -
Persecuted? |
GreenJ |
Dec-28-06 10:53 PM |
#247 |
| -
I think he probably was a Christian but I can't say so with 100% certainty |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-28-06 12:20 AM |
#22 |
| -
The founding fathers didn't try to pass themselves off as christians. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:32 AM |
#32 |
| -
I think you may be correct in avoiding the certainty of the absolute |
LanternWaste |
Dec-28-06 10:57 AM |
#153 |
| -
I guess you haven't noticed that there are plenty of |
China_cat |
Dec-28-06 12:15 AM |
#15 |
| -
I've never heard that at all. |
lvx35 |
Dec-28-06 12:25 AM |
#27 |
| -
You can start with the video game |
China_cat |
Dec-28-06 12:34 AM |
#33 |
| -
And all Christians believe those things. |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 12:38 AM |
#37 |
| -
Reading is fundamental... |
opiate69 |
Dec-28-06 12:41 AM |
#41 |
| -
The only broad generalization was the "all" in your strawman. nt |
Kingshakabobo |
Dec-28-06 01:13 AM |
#73 |
| -
I never said that. Don't put words in my post that aren't there. |
China_cat |
Dec-28-06 06:11 AM |
#136 |
| -
Christians are all alike |
Patchuli |
Dec-29-06 01:08 AM |
#292 |
| -
Quit it with the strawmen, Einstein.. |
opiate69 |
Dec-29-06 01:12 AM |
#294 |
| -
WWJMUSA? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 01:26 AM |
#299 |
| -
"Christians are all alike, SQUAWK!" "Christians are all alike!" |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 01:13 AM |
#295 |
| -
I've heard some dumb Robertson quotes, but I need some kind of link for that one. |
JVS |
Dec-28-06 12:43 AM |
#44 |
| -
It was...several of them. |
China_cat |
Dec-28-06 06:07 AM |
#135 |
| -
okay left behind people. right.... |
lvx35 |
Dec-28-06 01:15 AM |
#74 |
| -
Of course, the refutation of THAT stupidity is: Would Christ actually be so |
WinkyDink |
Dec-28-06 10:12 AM |
#143 |
| -
Perhaps you should read this article. |
johnaries |
Dec-28-06 12:17 AM |
#18 |
| -
The Barmen Declaration was a reaction to the "German Christian" movement |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 12:22 AM |
#23 |
| -
"Maybe Christians should decide what a Christian is." OK. |
johnaries |
Dec-28-06 12:40 AM |
#39 |
| -
There were Christians who stood against Hitler. Not that they'd be respected by |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 12:42 AM |
#42 |
| -
And that somehow proves Hitler wasn't a True Christian™ ? |
opiate69 |
Dec-28-06 12:48 AM |
#50 |
| -
Sure they'd be respected. |
trotsky |
Dec-28-06 11:52 AM |
#163 |
| -
Since when did Hitler decide/ care who was and wasn't Christian? |
JVS |
Dec-28-06 01:52 AM |
#91 |
| -
Can you answer his question? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:57 AM |
#93 |
| -
Whoever has authority to excommunicate |
JVS |
Dec-28-06 02:13 AM |
#101 |
| -
Hitler wasn't excommunicated and he never denounced his christianity. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:19 AM |
#107 |
| -
You seem very happy to take him at his word rather than establish that he was practicing |
JVS |
Dec-28-06 02:32 AM |
#112 |
| -
You must be joking. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:37 AM |
#115 |
| -
I'm not claiming that he isn't one. You are making a conflated claim |
JVS |
Dec-28-06 02:43 AM |
#119 |
| -
Nope, read my posts again, Hitler was the one who claimed he was a christian. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:48 AM |
#121 |
| -
You need to prove you points rather than just state them as fact |
JVS |
Dec-28-06 03:15 AM |
#124 |
| -
You asked for it... |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 03:29 AM |
#126 |
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Other Christians, of course. They are the most judgemental of all |
frankly_fedup2 |
Dec-30-06 01:41 PM |
#324 |
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There's still time for you, lol! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-30-06 03:12 PM |
#325 |
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A Christian is someone who believes Jesus died to atone for sin |
toddaa |
Dec-28-06 01:04 PM |
#171 |
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Substitutionary atonement is one view, not one I subscribe to |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 04:44 PM |
#212 |
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I think Torquemada was in charge of that, for a while. nt |
impeachdubya |
Dec-28-06 04:33 PM |
#209 |
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The gospels aren't the documents ranting about the jews, the aryan race. |
lvx35 |
Dec-28-06 12:53 AM |
#56 |
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You need look no further than Martin Luther, actually. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:01 AM |
#64 |
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Nietzsche wasn't anti-Semetic |
catbert836 |
Dec-29-06 01:30 PM |
#315 |
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Thanks for reminding me to renew my sub to Freethought Today! |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-28-06 01:00 AM |
#63 |
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But Jesus wasn't a Jew. He was a good Aryan. |
NCevilDUer |
Dec-28-06 12:49 AM |
#52 |
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Christians (Protestants at least) rejected the notion that one could be |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 12:12 AM |
#13 |
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Well isn't that cute? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:20 AM |
#20 |
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So you get to decide who is and who is not a Christian? Who died and made you God? |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 12:23 AM |
#24 |
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Nope, christians do. And unless you're GOD, you can't prove them wrong. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:50 AM |
#55 |
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The point is tha NO ONE gets to decide who's a "true" Christian |
piedmont |
Dec-28-06 01:06 AM |
#69 |
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The only requirement for claiming christianity for your own religion |
China_cat |
Dec-28-06 02:31 PM |
#184 |
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Good post, China_cat...nt |
SidDithers |
Dec-28-06 03:13 PM |
#192 |
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And probably no worse. |
rebel with a cause |
Dec-28-06 01:52 AM |
#90 |
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The only problem with that |
jgraz |
Dec-28-06 02:03 AM |
#96 |
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Well, we're not the ones claiming absolute knowledge about his beliefs. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:09 AM |
#99 |
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evidently you mistake me for someone who said Hitler did not claim to be a Christian. |
rebel with a cause |
Dec-28-06 02:49 AM |
#122 |
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Where did I say you made that claim? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:52 AM |
#123 |
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I suggest we enlist Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and other famous atheist to draft a declaration |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-28-06 06:42 PM |
#218 |
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Ah, a pre-emptive No True Atheist declaration. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 06:59 PM |
#219 |
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I have it from good sources that Stalin put SUGAR in his porridge! |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-28-06 07:02 PM |
#220 |
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Well, that settles it. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 07:07 PM |
#221 |
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Apparently, that was a minority of the Protestants. Which is why |
johnaries |
Dec-28-06 12:28 AM |
#28 |
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But at DU both progressive and conservative Christians catch crap from the |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 12:30 AM |
#31 |
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At DU, no religion is revered, sorry. If you can't reasonably discuss the issue, bow out. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:58 AM |
#59 |
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Yeah, BMUS.. you big meanie! |
opiate69 |
Dec-28-06 01:02 AM |
#66 |
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How have you been, you godless heathen scum? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:10 AM |
#71 |
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Did you know there are gay Christians? nt |
mycritters2 |
Dec-28-06 01:11 AM |
#72 |
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Did you know there are christians who want to kill gays? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:18 AM |
#77 |
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Depends on who you ask... |
SidDithers |
Dec-28-06 03:19 PM |
#194 |
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That is sometimes true, or at least often enough. And I apologize |
johnaries |
Dec-28-06 12:59 AM |
#61 |
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THere's a difference in how that label is used, too. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:04 AM |
#68 |
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"No distinction" is wrong, but so is absolute, qualitative distinction |
jgraz |
Dec-28-06 01:43 AM |
#87 |
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"brights"???? that label will die a deserved death.. |
trekbiker |
Dec-28-06 11:08 AM |
#155 |
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That's supposed to be an insult, I think, even though none of us call ourselves that. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 11:56 AM |
#164 |
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I know, and to think the "The Brights' Net" is right here in my |
trekbiker |
Dec-28-06 04:51 PM |
#213 |
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I agree. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 05:06 PM |
#214 |
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Hitlers' religion is irrelevant. The Holocaust was driven by Christian ideology. |
jgraz |
Dec-28-06 01:16 AM |
#76 |
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Yeah, even if you could convince me Hitler wasn't a "true" Christian... |
piedmont |
Dec-28-06 01:39 AM |
#86 |
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Maybe like a lot of Americans today |
rebel with a cause |
Dec-28-06 02:03 AM |
#97 |
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Why does everyone seem to be missing your primary points? Rick Warren is WRONG |
0rganism |
Dec-28-06 01:20 AM |
#78 |
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Thank you. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:23 AM |
#79 |
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Well put! I hope you write to Media Matters with your thoughts! |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-28-06 01:27 AM |
#81 |
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And thank you. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:49 AM |
#89 |
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Thanks, I just hope enough people write Media Matters |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-28-06 02:17 AM |
#104 |
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Now that's a good idea. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:39 AM |
#116 |
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Link to Media Matters here. PLEASE CONTACT THEM! |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-28-06 01:39 AM |
#85 |
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I'll send them what I've got on hand. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:42 AM |
#118 |
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Uhm, "Hitler was an atheist" = cheap shot at atheists? |
rman |
Dec-28-06 03:15 AM |
#125 |
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Uhm, 'cuz he wasn't? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 03:31 AM |
#127 |
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It's also a cowardly evasion of responsibility by a Christian |
jgraz |
Dec-28-06 03:57 AM |
#129 |
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I agree with your analysis |
rman |
Dec-28-06 08:10 AM |
#137 |
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It is a shot at atheists if your reasoning is that part of why Hitler |
renie408 |
Dec-28-06 10:17 AM |
#145 |
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So Hitler being an atheist or not is only an issue if you believe Warren's |
rman |
Dec-28-06 10:41 AM |
#151 |
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No, that's not what I meant. |
renie408 |
Dec-28-06 11:02 AM |
#154 |
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Actually i was asking if the OP meant that |
rman |
Dec-28-06 11:32 AM |
#158 |
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Eh, Warren's a goob |
charlie |
Dec-28-06 03:46 AM |
#128 |
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I was going to say what an idiot, but then I read a little further |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 04:09 AM |
#130 |
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Yeah, he knows what he is doing |
charlie |
Dec-28-06 04:31 AM |
#131 |
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An Idiot whose numbers are wrong |
FrenchCori |
Dec-30-06 10:22 AM |
#317 |
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Oh I take EVERYTHING this wretched excuse for a human says with a ton of salt. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-30-06 10:44 AM |
#320 |
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he forgot a lot of secularists |
Bill McBlueState |
Dec-30-06 10:36 AM |
#318 |
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I know. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-30-06 10:41 AM |
#319 |
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Rick Warren is a BIGOT and he is, of course, wrong. |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-28-06 04:54 AM |
#132 |
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I will respectfully disagree and suggest that it's |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 02:25 PM |
#181 |
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Nazi uniform; "Gott mit uns" |
LynnTheDem |
Dec-28-06 05:12 AM |
#133 |
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See prior thread: Hitler Celebrated Christmas |
IanDB1 |
Dec-28-06 10:08 AM |
#139 |
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Maybe He Was. I Say It Carries No Relevance Anyway. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Dec-28-06 10:09 AM |
#140 |
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I think that people like Rick Warren |
renie408 |
Dec-28-06 10:15 AM |
#144 |
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Know What I Do About Worthless Premises Like That? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Dec-28-06 10:28 AM |
#148 |
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you are right |
renie408 |
Dec-28-06 10:38 AM |
#150 |
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"Sometimes I would just like the same respect." |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Dec-28-06 11:24 AM |
#156 |
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good for you... you should move to California. |
trekbiker |
Dec-28-06 11:28 AM |
#157 |
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I thought the Inner Circle and AH were more Nordic-myth oriented. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-28-06 10:09 AM |
#141 |
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In Hitler's own words. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-28-06 10:20 AM |
#146 |
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Case closed in my opinion |
Stuckinthebush |
Dec-28-06 10:51 AM |
#152 |
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Rick Warren's Church Needs To Be Investigated. |
Greg Helmsley |
Dec-28-06 10:32 AM |
#149 |
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Yes, I agree. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 11:46 AM |
#162 |
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Thanks |
Greg Helmsley |
Dec-28-06 12:48 PM |
#169 |
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Have you ever heard of Creflo Dollar? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:06 PM |
#172 |
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Yes :), I've heard of him. |
Greg Helmsley |
Dec-28-06 01:16 PM |
#174 |
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You know, you should start a separate thread about that issue. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:41 PM |
#176 |
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Hitler was a Christian. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 11:45 AM |
#161 |
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"a vile boil on the ass of humanity" |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:29 PM |
#166 |
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What can I say, BMUS? |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 03:35 PM |
#195 |
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You are truly evil. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 04:00 PM |
#203 |
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Am not! I'm a Christian! The Bible tells me I'm good and holy! |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 04:04 PM |
#204 |
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My standard response to people who ask me "Don't you want to go to heaven?" : |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 04:06 PM |
#205 |
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People have actually used that line?? |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 04:15 PM |
#206 |
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Oh, you'd be surprised what they tell you when they find out you're a non-believer. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 04:33 PM |
#210 |
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"used to tell my husband" aaahahaha..... |
trekbiker |
Dec-28-06 05:57 PM |
#215 |
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I know, I saw it on a bumper sticker in Vermont and it stayed with me. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 06:05 PM |
#216 |
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You were in the Marine Corps as well? |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 08:52 PM |
#222 |
| -
Weird, eh? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 09:09 PM |
#224 |
| -
Hmm...perhaps... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 09:16 PM |
#227 |
| -
" unsolved murder/suicide, drugs, whores, all kinds of debauchery" |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 09:30 PM |
#228 |
| -
My daddy brought me to a whorehouse when I was a toddler... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 09:45 PM |
#234 |
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Ah, but lots of christians love me too. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 10:01 PM |
#235 |
| -
Mmm...I just enjoy the rise you get out of some... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 10:07 PM |
#237 |
| -
I bet she loved that one =) |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 08:54 PM |
#223 |
| -
Oh yeah, I was her FAVOURITE, right from the start. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 09:10 PM |
#225 |
| -
And then... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 09:14 PM |
#226 |
| -
It was one of the most peaceful concerts I've ever been to. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 09:34 PM |
#230 |
| -
OF course it was.. |
opiate69 |
Dec-28-06 09:39 PM |
#231 |
| -
sigh... |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 09:42 PM |
#232 |
| -
Well of course... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 09:43 PM |
#233 |
| -
What the hell does it matter? |
varkam |
Dec-28-06 12:35 PM |
#167 |
| -
Hi varkam! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 12:43 PM |
#168 |
| -
I enjoy revisionism about as much as the next fellow... |
varkam |
Dec-28-06 12:50 PM |
#170 |
| -
That's why I said I was so sick of this issue in my first post. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 01:08 PM |
#173 |
| -
You certainly expended a lot of energy |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 02:40 PM |
#185 |
| -
Christian supremacy makes me sick. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 02:49 PM |
#187 |
| -
I've never said anyone is either |
Patchuli |
Dec-28-06 10:38 PM |
#239 |
| -
Since you seem to be blind.. here are your own words again |
opiate69 |
Dec-28-06 10:49 PM |
#244 |
| -
Nice. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 10:54 PM |
#248 |
| -
And you point being...? nt |
Patchuli |
Dec-29-06 12:09 AM |
#257 |
| -
You can't seriously be this dense, can you? |
opiate69 |
Dec-29-06 12:26 AM |
#261 |
| -
She can't be reading our posts. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 12:38 AM |
#270 |
| -
That or maybe it's performance art... |
GreenJ |
Dec-29-06 12:44 AM |
#274 |
| -
It could be a fellow EAConspirator goofing on us. |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 01:14 AM |
#296 |
| -
Reading comprehension? Glasses? |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-28-06 10:52 PM |
#246 |
| -
But...but... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-28-06 03:59 PM |
#201 |
| -
Over 300 posts.. this thread needs more cats, I think |
opiate69 |
Dec-29-06 01:36 AM |
#302 |
| -
ROFLMAO!!! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 01:38 AM |
#304 |
| -
Holy f'ing crap |
trotsky |
Dec-29-06 05:19 AM |
#305 |
| -
My new favorite |
charlie |
Dec-29-06 05:41 AM |
#306 |
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! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-29-06 05:46 AM |
#307 |
| -
Stop lying, Rick Warren, you miserable piece of hatebased shit and admit the truth. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Dec-29-06 09:19 AM |
#308 |
| -
Gadzooks |
charlie |
Dec-29-06 12:53 PM |
#312 |
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