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82. People are conditioned to want more of the same, remade prettier and dumber, and
with crowd-pleasing hoo-haahs at the expense of something for their minds to dig into.

Hollywood will take the safe route, what with paying pretty people gross sums of money (which is nothing compared to what the actors' bosses must make.)

Hollywood is a pyramid scheme - the viewers are at the bottom, naturally.
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  -A-List Stars Flailing at the Box Office FarCenter  Aug-21-09 11:38 AM   #0 
  - You said it  XemaSab   Aug-21-09 11:41 AM   #1 
  - I was about to say: the vehicles were wretched.  aquart   Aug-21-09 11:41 AM   #2 
  - That's the obvious conclusion -- people thought the movies sucked. Alternatively...  Buzz Clik   Aug-21-09 11:43 AM   #3 
  - Stupid Casting Directors  Yehonala   Sep-20-09 03:27 PM   #156 
  - Megawatt stars like Eddie Murphy?  Curtland1015   Aug-21-09 11:43 AM   #4 
  - hey, he was funny in 48 hours  Wickerman   Aug-21-09 11:46 AM   #10 
  - According to this he is #1 all time in total box office revenue  DefenseLawyer   Aug-21-09 11:59 AM   #21 
  - Must have been Pluto Nash that put him over the top...  Curtland1015   Aug-21-09 12:01 PM   #22 
  - Zing!  eyepaddle   Aug-21-09 01:25 PM   #56 
  - He's been in a lot of hits, but also a lot of bombs  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-21-09 12:13 PM   #28 
  - I think it is the Shrek movies that put him up there at or near the top  DefenseLawyer   Aug-21-09 12:21 PM   #31 
  - According to this, it's Samuel L Jackson...  SidDithers   Aug-21-09 12:25 PM   #34 
     - I'm guessing that comes down to whether they count the Star Wars movies  DefenseLawyer   Aug-21-09 12:38 PM   #35 
  - I Was Offered A Free Pass To See "Imagine That" and I Turned It Down  Yavin4   Aug-21-09 12:51 PM   #45 
  - Perhaps movie makers should cease re-cycling the same canned shit over and over and over  Echo In Light   Aug-21-09 11:44 AM   #5 
  - And perhaps theaters could try to make the moviegoing experience cheaper...  Orsino   Aug-21-09 11:49 AM   #16 
     - Friday Night At the Movies Is a $21 Date - MINIMUM  NashVegas   Aug-21-09 12:48 PM   #42 
     - Exactly! We saw District 9 at the mainstream theater here, and the late-morning  petronius   Aug-21-09 01:22 PM   #53 
     - $8.50 For a Matinee is Fucknuts  NashVegas   Aug-21-09 03:03 PM   #92 
     - A few years ago one local branch of the AMC or Regal started listing the real start times  Mike Daniels   Aug-21-09 04:00 PM   #112 
     - commercials should be forbidden. Instead show local events with date &  KakistocracyHater   Aug-21-09 05:10 PM   #127 
     - "Up to $7.50"  NYC Liberal   Aug-21-09 07:03 PM   #133 
     - Wow.  NashVegas   Aug-21-09 07:30 PM   #135 
     - $8.50 is the first showing, 'discount' price here in DC. Makes you think twice about going. nt  Captain Hilts   Sep-24-09 09:57 AM   #161 
     - That's more than the DVD 4 months later, and the same as a blu-ray.  Touchdown   Aug-22-09 02:17 AM   #149 
     - That's why I very glad the Twin Cities has 2 drive-in movie theatres  krispos42   Aug-21-09 02:11 PM   #73 
        - Awesome!  NashVegas   Aug-21-09 03:04 PM   #93 
     - Right. CD prices have gone down. Why not these? nt  Captain Hilts   Sep-24-09 09:56 AM   #160 
  - "The fact that the movies suck might have something to do with it."  nyc 4 Biden   Aug-21-09 11:44 AM   #6 
  - Actually it's a good movie  lunatica   Aug-21-09 12:08 PM   #24 
     - i liked District 9 too n/t  Scout   Aug-21-09 01:03 PM   #48 
     - After reading your message about forgetting the CGI in District 9 (spoiler)  TommyO   Aug-21-09 03:38 PM   #105 
        - HA! The surround sound...  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-21-09 04:02 PM   #113 
           - My brother and I saw it on Monday  TommyO   Aug-21-09 04:05 PM   #115 
  - So they blame the stars instead of the crappy movies  leftstreet   Aug-21-09 11:44 AM   #7 
  - What about Brad-Jolina? They dont count or this is the +40 crowd?  cabluedem   Aug-21-09 02:45 PM   #85 
  - More room for Apatow style movies.  tridim   Aug-21-09 11:45 AM   #8 
  - Funny People WAS an Apatow movie  alcibiades_mystery   Aug-21-09 12:41 PM   #38 
     - well played :-D  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 12:47 PM   #41 
     - Guess it's a good thing I haven't seen it yet..  tridim   Aug-21-09 01:22 PM   #54 
        - District 9 was a great film and should be a lesson to Hollywood.  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 01:25 PM   #57 
  - It's been a long while since Julia Roberts was a major draw.  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 11:45 AM   #9 
  - Women, in general, are just not the draws that men are. They have FAR fewer spoken lines in film now  Captain Hilts   Aug-21-09 11:49 AM   #17 
  - I was thinking more along the lines that it's her long absence from film that is the real reason.  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 11:54 AM   #19 
     - You sit through a pile of previews and hear practically no women speak on screen.  Captain Hilts   Aug-21-09 12:08 PM   #25 
     - A Katharine Hepburn or Bette Davis wouldn't have even been given the chance  theHandpuppet   Aug-21-09 02:15 PM   #75 
        - You said it  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-21-09 03:01 PM   #91 
        - Oh don't get me started on the ST movie  theHandpuppet   Aug-21-09 04:08 PM   #116 
           - Same here. They had opportunities to show women as leaders in other roles in that film  Captain Hilts   Aug-21-09 04:43 PM   #123 
              - It's part of the teenage boy mentality that filmmakers strive for  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-21-09 04:52 PM   #125 
                 - Yep, when I was a TA and later, faculty, there was always one guy who would  Captain Hilts   Aug-21-09 04:58 PM   #126 
                    - There were a couple of real smirk-faces in one class,  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-21-09 08:17 PM   #142 
        - Do you remember that scene between Paul Newman and Elizabeth Taylor  texastoast   Aug-21-09 11:53 PM   #147 
     - What long absence from the screen?  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 12:50 PM   #43 
        - I didn't consider the voice acting a "major film" part.  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 01:03 PM   #47 
           - Ah, so it's low output rather than long absence  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 01:39 PM   #59 
           - The last group of films that did very well for her was the Ocean's series.  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 01:44 PM   #62 
           - Charlie Wilson's War was a very good movie.  Manifestor_of_Light   Aug-21-09 01:53 PM   #66 
           - One of the best movies about DC EVER. nt  Captain Hilts   Aug-21-09 04:44 PM   #124 
              - "CWW" was too soft, and we can thank Tom Hanks for that.  onager   Aug-22-09 05:58 PM   #151 
           - That's a weird translation  Retrograde   Aug-21-09 02:31 PM   #83 
  - Julia Roberts has officially moved into hagdom. "Pretty Lame" is her next box office hit. nt  cabluedem   Aug-21-09 02:57 PM   #88 
     - How do you do that?  texastoast   Aug-21-09 11:56 PM   #148 
  - A look at what's doing well:  Cessna Invesco Palin   Aug-21-09 11:46 AM   #11 
  - Might help more if they paid for decent writers.  Vidar   Aug-21-09 11:46 AM   #12 
  - Quiet you! why spoil a good actor bashing session with common sense?  Javaman   Aug-21-09 01:59 PM   #68 
  - Well, I haven't considered most on that first list A-list in years. eom  lukasahero   Aug-21-09 11:46 AM   #13 
  - 'A list' isn't a matter of opinion actually (FYI post)  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 01:18 PM   #51 
     - Thanks for the education  lukasahero   Aug-21-09 01:47 PM   #64 
  - There's no originality in Hollywood anymore  Kievan Rus   Aug-21-09 11:47 AM   #14 
  - I have laugh when I think of these people  PM Martin   Aug-21-09 08:00 PM   #140 
  - "These supertalented people..."  HiFructosePronSyrup   Aug-21-09 11:48 AM   #15 
  - Puke, gag, & hack. The story plots are rehashed garbage. Wake up, Hollywood! nt  cabluedem   Aug-21-09 03:06 PM   #94 
  - I want to see "Shorts"  WolverineDG   Aug-21-09 11:51 AM   #18 
  - Maybe they need to spend more money on writers  Warpy   Aug-21-09 11:54 AM   #20 
  - Nobody goes to see a film based on who wrote it  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 01:20 PM   #52 
     - No, but they do see films based on how good the story is  Warpy   Aug-21-09 01:24 PM   #55 
     - Not really  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 02:00 PM   #69 
     - Excellent point about "Up." You're right.  dem629   Aug-21-09 02:26 PM   #79 
     - It's the only draw for most everyone I know  Lorien   Aug-21-09 06:37 PM   #131 
     - People who recognize good writing do.  dem629   Aug-21-09 01:45 PM   #63 
     - ...and such people are in the minority  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 02:03 PM   #71 
        - In this celeb-obsessed culture, it's not surprising.  dem629   Aug-21-09 02:22 PM   #77 
           - I'd say an A-List director's name also goes a long way.  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 02:26 PM   #78 
              - I'd agree. But it all starts with the writing.  dem629   Aug-21-09 02:27 PM   #80 
              - It does, which is why they have their own list. But not as far as actors.  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 03:21 PM   #101 
     - i think a lot of people would see a movie simply due to  LanternWaste   Aug-21-09 02:51 PM   #86 
  - Meryl Streep delivered with "Julia & Julie"  WI_DEM   Aug-21-09 12:05 PM   #23 
  - Yes. And her box office numbers have been flat. This will turn that around. nt  Captain Hilts   Aug-21-09 12:09 PM   #26 
     - While critically dissed "Mama Mia" was a hit for her last summer, too.  WI_DEM   Aug-21-09 12:13 PM   #27 
        - It was an esemble piece more than a Streep flick, but, yes, you're right. nt  Captain Hilts   Aug-21-09 12:25 PM   #32 
        - Pretty Much Everyone Agreed Transformers 2 Sucked  NashVegas   Aug-21-09 03:15 PM   #97 
  - The basic truth that the MBAs and accountants that run Hollywood have forgotten,  Greyhound   Aug-21-09 12:19 PM   #29 
  - Not true - everyone loves a well-written story  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 01:36 PM   #58 
  - ROFL. Look at the popularity of the trek and dr who remakes (and torchwood)  Deja Q   Aug-21-09 08:19 PM   #144 
  - It's a combination of contrived movies and elevated prices  CakeGrrl   Aug-21-09 12:21 PM   #30 
  - Yep!  Vinnie From Indy   Aug-21-09 12:39 PM   #36 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Aug-21-09 12:25 PM   #33 
  - Angels and Demons wasn't bad at all  WeDidIt   Aug-21-09 12:41 PM   #37 
  - note to Hollywood: get some better writers capable of original thought  Blue_Tires   Aug-21-09 12:43 PM   #39 
  - Couldn't agree more  aint_no_life_nowhere   Aug-21-09 01:52 PM   #65 
  - Yeah, looks like it's getting to be the  Cha   Aug-21-09 12:46 PM   #40 
  - It does make sense, though  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 01:42 PM   #61 
     - But look at that list we are given.  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 02:59 PM   #89 
        - Eh, what?  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 03:32 PM   #104 
           - But none of those actors have ever gotten the numbers Tom Cruise did.  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 03:46 PM   #107 
           - Um, I think you should go back and look at the numbers  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 04:05 PM   #114 
              - Those are stars that have worked for close to two decades now.  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 04:11 PM   #117 
                 - As I said, now is a good time to be Shia leBoeuf's agent  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 04:24 PM   #119 
                    - Not being cynical. I just think star power itself is not what it use to be.  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 04:32 PM   #120 
           - I also get tired of the same actor being in movie after  Cha   Aug-21-09 06:18 PM   #128 
  - People are willing to wait for movies to come to tv  SoCalDem   Aug-21-09 12:51 PM   #44 
  - With DVDs, On-Demand, and Satellite and Cable Movie Networks  Yavin4   Aug-21-09 12:54 PM   #46 
  - I Wouldn't Watch Any Of The Listed Crap On...  jayfish   Aug-21-09 02:54 PM   #87 
  - As so many others on this thread have already said  Missy Vixen   Aug-21-09 01:12 PM   #49 
  - HD, online services, price, etc. have their roles  Prism   Aug-21-09 01:18 PM   #50 
  - Hey Hollywood, make movies with good characters and stories, not just stars.  dem629   Aug-21-09 01:41 PM   #60 
  - That's because the studios have become corporate enterprises turning out formulaic, pre-canned shit.  Warren DeMontague   Aug-21-09 01:56 PM   #67 
  - Now, they haven't. They were always like this.  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 02:19 PM   #76 
     - I have to disagree in part  aint_no_life_nowhere   Aug-21-09 03:11 PM   #95 
     - Very very interesting  anigbrowl   Aug-21-09 03:53 PM   #109 
        - DEG did make some good films  aint_no_life_nowhere   Aug-21-09 04:35 PM   #121 
           - They did cut out the best scene in Manhunter, though  aint_no_life_nowhere   Aug-21-09 08:28 PM   #145 
     - TCM  malletgirl02   Aug-21-09 08:13 PM   #141 
  - I went to 'GI Joe' and all I got was  Sentath   Aug-21-09 02:02 PM   #70 
  - I could have told you this would happen just by  PM Martin   Aug-21-09 09:08 PM   #146 
  - Those stars have been circling the drain for awhile... Sandra Bullock did well with her movie...  Blasphemer   Aug-21-09 02:06 PM   #72 
  - Every one of these actors has done their best work Before 2001.  slampoet   Aug-21-09 02:12 PM   #74 
  - generally agree although not as to Julia Roberts  onenote   Aug-21-09 02:29 PM   #81 
  - People are conditioned to want more of the same, remade prettier and dumber, and  Deja Q   Aug-21-09 02:29 PM   #82 
  - The movie experience sucks, for one thing  charlie   Aug-21-09 02:32 PM   #84 
  - You said exactly what I was going to say.  flvegan   Aug-21-09 04:16 PM   #118 
  - Maybe its not the films or the actors - maybe its the theaters  sweetpotato   Aug-21-09 03:01 PM   #90 
  - I see maybe 2 or 3 movies a year and each time I am reminded why!  Phentex   Aug-21-09 03:52 PM   #108 
  - Um. Newsflash to Hollywood. The Movies Suck Ass.  distantearlywarning   Aug-21-09 03:12 PM   #96 
  - Julia Roberts  KansDem   Aug-21-09 03:19 PM   #98 
  - Well... her character in Notting Hill was thoroughly unlikeable  Blasphemer   Aug-21-09 03:27 PM   #103 
     - Thanks!  KansDem   Aug-21-09 03:44 PM   #106 
  - The real problem is these actors are close to retirement and there are no new bona fide stars  gatorboy   Aug-21-09 03:19 PM   #99 
  - I wouldn't watch 90% of those movies if they came with an hour long blow job.  LostInAnomie   Aug-21-09 03:21 PM   #100 
  - they're getting older, give us fresh faces in non-childish movies  pitohui   Aug-21-09 03:26 PM   #102 
  - Adam Sandler = Pauly Shore with a better agent.  onager   Aug-22-09 06:09 PM   #152 
     - Pauly is better.  Yehonala   Sep-23-09 03:50 PM   #158 
  - A lot of the movies suck  Politicalboi   Aug-21-09 03:54 PM   #110 
  - "Up", "The Hangover," "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince", "Star Trek"  Beaverhausen   Aug-21-09 03:57 PM   #111 
  - I've worked in Hollywood for 22 years and  zappaman   Aug-21-09 04:39 PM   #122 
  - I've worked for one of the major studios for over 20 years as well  Lorien   Aug-21-09 06:42 PM   #132 
  - It's Really Telling at the Oscars  NashVegas   Aug-21-09 07:43 PM   #137 
  - Turner Classic Movies  Swamp Rat   Aug-21-09 06:26 PM   #129 
  - Dr. Strangelove tomorrow  Gabi Hayes   Aug-21-09 07:51 PM   #138 
  - They still don't and won't get it; the script is the thing  Lorien   Aug-21-09 06:31 PM   #130 
  - Yep, as proven by the Frank Capra anecdote...  onager   Aug-22-09 06:17 PM   #153 
  - advertise in saturation, hope for a good opening weekend  jobendorfer   Aug-21-09 07:09 PM   #134 
  - Jaws Was Credited With Creating the Blockbuster Movement  NashVegas   Aug-21-09 07:41 PM   #136 
  - They need to invest into their writers.  PM Martin   Aug-21-09 07:56 PM   #139 
  - Good, with the current economic conditions people should not be giving their money to them.  RB TexLa   Aug-21-09 08:19 PM   #143 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-22-09 02:50 PM   #150 
  - Not surprised  ffellini7080   Aug-26-09 02:47 AM   #154 
  - My solution: Attend film festivals, seek out the art theaters in your area,  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-27-09 01:43 PM   #155 
  - Not surprised  sspeilbergfan90   Sep-22-09 05:38 PM   #157 
  - CD prices have gone down. Time for film ticket prices to go down too. nt  Captain Hilts   Sep-24-09 09:56 AM   #159 
  - All stars are suffering these days  gk88850   Sep-25-09 07:22 PM   #162 
 

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