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ahyums Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 06:38 PM
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10. I think this demonstrates how ineffectively federal law seems to mesh with
state law. I mean it is absolutely absurd that you have mechanisms in several states to challenge the election, where in order to reach a conclusion the deadline set by federal law has to be bypassed. - Fair enough there is a mechanism to challenge but that occurs in the partisan setting of Congress where the result is almost assured anyway. So the will of the states and of the voters can easily count for nothing. It's ridiculous.
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  -Dec 6 the is the deadline to Flip Ohio's Electors to Kerry truehawk  Nov-25-04 06:16 PM   #0 
  - Jan 6 is the deadline to prove fraud so that House and Senate accept Kerry  papau   Nov-25-04 06:21 PM   #1 
  - it would have to be conclusive proof  ahyums   Nov-25-04 06:23 PM   #3 
  - true - and that may not be hard to get!! :-)  papau   Nov-25-04 06:38 PM   #9 
  - What would constitute "conclusive proof"?  Eloriel   Nov-25-04 08:25 PM   #18 
     - as far as I am concerned something you could use in court to convict  ahyums   Nov-25-04 08:30 PM   #19 
     - Conclusive proof would consist of:  googly   Nov-26-04 12:21 PM   #42 
        - I don't think you'd need to tie the Republicans to the tampering if you  ahyums   Nov-27-04 12:15 AM   #49 
  - I think a showing of Fraud invalidates any agreement or action  truehawk   Nov-25-04 06:57 PM   #14 
     - Fraud has surfaced in every presidential election, and I can't recall  googly   Nov-25-04 10:36 PM   #22 
     - It would have to be of such a scope as to have changed the outcome  truehawk   Nov-25-04 11:03 PM   #24 
     - Only if done in time. For example a graduate student proved in  googly   Nov-26-04 12:24 PM   #43 
  - The Mess that is Section 15  truehawk   Nov-25-04 06:23 PM   #2 
  - Section 6  truehawk   Nov-25-04 06:24 PM   #4 
  - Not really such a mess  pat_k   Nov-25-04 11:31 PM   #28 
  - Truehawk  trayfoot   Nov-25-04 06:26 PM   #5 
  - fraud  KMG   Nov-25-04 06:34 PM   #6 
  - No Voter Left Behind  marions ghost   Nov-26-04 01:38 AM   #36 
  - Grottoes Go read the law and tell me what you think  truehawk   Nov-25-04 06:34 PM   #7 
  - Welcome to DU :-)  papau   Nov-25-04 06:34 PM   #8 
  - Its like Florida in 2000  freedom for all   Nov-25-04 06:49 PM   #12 
     - Yes the Exec of the State, or Governer has to certify the Electors  truehawk   Nov-25-04 06:55 PM   #13 
     - The Republicans said a lot of things in 2000 that were not true  Samantha   Nov-25-04 08:39 PM   #20 
        - inauguration day? how would that work - say Congress accept the electoral  ahyums   Nov-25-04 10:24 PM   #21 
        - Maybe I am reading this wrong  truehawk   Nov-25-04 10:41 PM   #23 
           - ouch I hadn't read the ruling before, that's really not good. First time  ahyums   Nov-25-04 11:11 PM   #25 
           - Yap, time for Kerry to spend that $52 Million he is hoarding for 2008  googly   Nov-26-04 12:30 PM   #44 
           - I guess we have a legal difference of opinion  Samantha   Nov-26-04 11:36 PM   #47 
  - Hey, grottoes!!!  YellowDoginthehouse   Nov-26-04 12:28 AM   #34 
  - I started out there, too  Spiffarino   Nov-27-04 07:52 PM   #51 
  - I think this demonstrates how ineffectively federal law seems to mesh with  ahyums   Nov-25-04 06:38 PM   #10 
  - This needs to go to the Supream Court NOW  truehawk   Nov-25-04 06:43 PM   #11 
     - did I miss a thread on this???? Bev...  jdog   Nov-25-04 07:03 PM   #15 
        - It's Right Here  truehawk   Nov-25-04 07:24 PM   #16 
           - OMG I've been cooking  jdog   Nov-25-04 07:26 PM   #17 
  - Don't fall for sham arguments about deadlines  pat_k   Nov-25-04 11:24 PM   #26 
  - I would really love to expect for this little detail  truehawk   Nov-25-04 11:33 PM   #29 
  - Somebody asked why Blackwell insisted on the date Dec 6th...  Chili   Nov-25-04 11:30 PM   #27 
  - Welll, I don't know about that  pat_k   Nov-25-04 11:52 PM   #31 
  - The state of Ohio could not appoint a slate of electors for Bush*  Samantha   Nov-26-04 11:43 PM   #48 
  - I could not find the Dec 1 deadline in any state law,  truehawk   Nov-26-04 12:25 AM   #33 
     - here's where I saw "Dec 1" and that was the last mention of it  Chili   Nov-26-04 11:45 AM   #41 
  - This is why we MUST change the FRAME  Senator   Nov-25-04 11:37 PM   #30 
  - Yes!! Posted above on setting the Frame before I saw this.  pat_k   Nov-25-04 11:54 PM   #32 
  - Oh no, that's not good.  politicasista   Nov-26-04 12:43 AM   #35 
  - Anyone know Ohio election Law as it pretains to when Electors  truehawk   Nov-26-04 01:44 AM   #37 
     - that actually sounds like a really good idea, I still think you would need  ahyums   Nov-26-04 09:44 AM   #40 
     - We need a Plaintiff with standing and Lawyer who Practices in Ohio  truehawk   Nov-26-04 02:15 PM   #45 
  - strategy for time urgent response to votergate in Ohio  cloudythescribbler   Nov-26-04 01:46 AM   #38 
  - Here, Here!  pat_k   Nov-26-04 09:33 AM   #39 
  - kick  truehawk   Nov-26-04 10:28 PM   #46 
  - Dec 1 vs. Dec 6  Chili   Nov-27-04 08:11 AM   #50 

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