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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:55 PM
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10. Security Issues
All of these things contributed, but when push comes to shove I believe that Americans were pumped full of fear and misinformation and Kerry was unsuccessful at penetrating this veil of terror.

Yes, fraud happened and needs to be investigated, but I'm just not convinced it made the difference.

Yes, values voters came out in numbers, but I'm still not convinced it made the difference.

Jobs, taxes, health care, abortion, guns, gay name it, they all take a back seat to these BIGGER issues of national security (no matter WHAT people say to pollsters). Constantly pivoting back to your comfy domestic issues, and constantly playing defense on the less comfy "wedge" issues, takes the focus off where you want it to be. Attack your opponent where he's strongest, or his strength will come back to bite you. Unless you debunk the myth of the "strong, decisive commander-in-chief who keeps us safe from terrorists," you COULD NOT WIN.

Mistakes aside (and there were a number of them), Kerry did a pretty good job on Iraq and foreign policy when he spoke about them. Trying to link the $200B spent on the war to the shortchanging of domestic programs was lame, though. People will pay any price if they believe it makes them safe. When people are afraid (and the GOP made sure that they were), pocketbook issues are far less important.

Kerry did begin an attempt to de-link the Iraq War from the War on Terrorism, but didn't spend enough time on it to really make it sink in. He let rhetoric from the Bush campaign that he wasn't committed to success in Iraq neuter his criticism. When he got accused of being a dove, he feigned being a hawk. And he wonders why the flip-flopping accusations stuck?

On terrorism, he only pointed to the President's ineffectiveness SINCE the attacks, and completely avoided an examination of Bush's pre-9/11 priorities. I suppose that was out of fear of a backlash, but when Cheney's going around saying that electing Kerry would increase the likelihood of another attack, how could ANYTHING you say be construed as a low blow?

Mind you, I say all of this as a staunch Kerry supporter, and one who would support him again in 2008 (the "Payback" election).
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  -In your heart of hearts, what do you really think happened 11/2? undisclosedlocation  Nov-17-04 02:48 PM   #0 
  - Given the exit polls, I'm positive they stole it.  Technowitch   Nov-17-04 02:49 PM   #1 
  - Totally agree nm  Cornus   Nov-17-04 02:51 PM   #4 
  - Add my 100% Positive it was stolen to Technowitch's ...  Dem Agog   Nov-17-04 02:58 PM   #12 
  - The republicans stole it.  natasha   Nov-17-04 02:50 PM   #2 
  - The FASCISTS STOLE it and will be in control until we clean up vote count  Vincardog   Nov-17-04 02:53 PM   #7 
     - WE decide  nolabels   Nov-17-04 03:09 PM   #17 
  - Massive and obvious fraud!  DenverDem   Nov-17-04 02:50 PM   #3 
  - Control the Media, control the message  Xipe Totec   Nov-17-04 02:51 PM   #5 
  - Other  ewagner   Nov-17-04 02:52 PM   #6 
  - The Republicans used the Swift Boat Liars  demnan   Nov-17-04 02:54 PM   #8 
  - But wasn't it within 3% in SC.  theorist   Nov-17-04 02:54 PM   #9 
  - No. Fucking blowout.  undisclosedlocation   Nov-17-04 03:02 PM   #14 
  - Security Issues  jjmalonejr   Nov-17-04 02:55 PM   #10 
  - Elections  haunce   Nov-17-04 02:57 PM   #11 
  - Hi haunce!!  newyawker99   Nov-17-04 06:57 PM   #25 
  - Losing was never  shakerbaker   Nov-17-04 03:01 PM   #13 
  - Yes, They're Not Mutually Exclusive  ribofunk   Nov-17-04 03:05 PM   #15 
  - stolen. 100%  LiberalAndProud   Nov-17-04 03:05 PM   #16 
  - The bastards STOLE THE ELECTION AGAIN!!!!  HEAVYHEART   Nov-17-04 03:17 PM   #18 
  - People don't go to the polls in droves when they're happy  notadmblnd   Nov-17-04 03:20 PM   #19 
  - Grand F'ing Larceny.  Tommymac   Nov-17-04 03:26 PM   #20 
  - Evening kick...  undisclosedlocation   Nov-17-04 05:22 PM   #21 
  - stolen. There is lots of evidence. I am 99.9% sure.  redsoxliberal   Nov-17-04 06:01 PM   #22 
  - Plenty of idiots...  Orsino   Nov-17-04 06:09 PM   #23 
  - It was stolen. Repub votes were added all across the country!  apolitical no more   Nov-17-04 06:19 PM   #24 
  - TOTALLY  jimmyp   Nov-17-04 07:05 PM   #26 
  - That's because the Media are  shakerbaker   Nov-17-04 07:21 PM   #27 
  - kick for the morning, and I swear I'll leave it alone n/t  undisclosedlocation   Nov-18-04 06:37 AM   #28 
  - They stole it again, though some of those other things are true to, as  GOPBasher   Nov-18-04 08:02 AM   #29 

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