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Reply #2: Wrong as usual. Lever machines are routinely used in some local elections, per NY State Law. [View All]

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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:37 PM
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2. Wrong as usual. Lever machines are routinely used in some local elections, per NY State Law.
Edited on Thu Dec-08-11 07:40 PM by Bill Bored
And how do YOU know that the scanners were not misprogrammed so as to not even give the overvote warning in some neighborhoods? The Brennan Center doesn't know that and neither do you. No one can examine the ballots to see if voters REALLY overvoted as much as the scanners say they did. No one can obtain recounts of the paper ballots in close elections or examine them to count overvotes, undervotes, switched votes or actual votes.

The voting system you keep defending is indefensible without major changes that our party hacks will probably never allow. Rather than defending it, you should be one of those trying to motivate change. It's not just about lever machines. If you want to count votes with computers, there are certain legal, scientific and moral prerequisites. We have none of them in NY at this time, nor are we likely to in the foreseeable future.

And no, I won't "get over it."

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  -Report: NY State Voting Machines Really Suck (Mother Jones) Bill Bored  Dec-08-11 06:52 PM   #0 
  - The machines we used clearly indicated when there was an overvote and...  TreasonousBastard   Dec-08-11 07:18 PM   #1 
  - Wrong as usual. Lever machines are routinely used in some local elections, per NY State Law.  Bill Bored   Dec-08-11 07:37 PM   #2 
     - Which ones? All the EDs I know of were ordered to junk the lever machines...  TreasonousBastard   Dec-08-11 09:47 PM   #3 
        - I think you need to read more about this.  Bill Bored   Dec-09-11 12:01 AM   #4 
           - Since I actually worked with this stuff, I need a lot less education than you think...  TreasonousBastard   Dec-09-11 12:36 AM   #5 
              - Cite the case please. Tell me who got a 100% hand count in a Congressional election in NY.  Bill Bored   Dec-09-11 01:15 AM   #7 
              - I never said it was a 100% hand count. Do you have any idea what that would cost? But, we...  TreasonousBastard   Dec-09-11 02:31 AM   #8 
                 - Oh, I see. So what percentage of the ballots were actually counted by hand then?  Bill Bored   Dec-09-11 02:55 AM   #9 
              - So it's the BoE's Fault?  Wilms   Dec-09-11 04:41 AM   #10 
                 - See post #7  Bill Bored   Dec-09-11 02:16 PM   #11 
  - I hate the new machines too  zalinda   Dec-09-11 01:05 AM   #6 
  - nvm  johnb72341js   Dec-24-11 02:48 AM   #12 

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