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Yellow Horse Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 07:19 AM
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13. The correct term is "people with disabilities" and these machines are NOT accessible for them.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 07:31 AM by Yellow Horse
These folks want to be, and should be, considered as PEOPLE first. The fact that they have a disability is secondary.

The vendors sold everyone snake oil, promising but not really providing private and independent voting for people with disabilities that the Help America Vote Act requires.

The screen of most DREs cannot be reached from a wheelchair, however many people who use wheelchairs write normally and easily COULD hand-mark a paper ballot if one was available to them.

Most DREs have ZERO provisions for people with manual dexterity issues. Even the audio voting provided for voters with low vision (or blind) is so poorly implemented that it is unusable in a lot of cases. For anyone who cannot write or read normally, there are ballot markers that were specifically designed to accommodate multiple disabilities. These are much better than DREs.

To add insult to injury, stupid vendors like ES&S have the gall to call their DREs "ADA compliant." These DREs are neither compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act, nor HAVA. But we had DRE-shills like Jim Dickson of the American Association of People With Disabilities still pimping for DREs after receiving big donations from Diebold.

It's a disgrace. People who have disabilities deserve SO much better when it comes to voting.
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  -Can anyone tell me how trustworthy is the Sequoia-AVC Edge II ? eowyn_of_rohan  Aug-16-11 08:35 AM   #0 
  - you might look here  Botany   Aug-16-11 08:45 AM   #1 
  - thank you! I'll do some studying... nt  eowyn_of_rohan   Aug-16-11 08:50 AM   #2 
  - Whoever said there's no need to worry is unfamiliar with the situation.  Wilms   Aug-16-11 08:52 AM   #3 
  - I agree with you - trying to find evidence to present  eowyn_of_rohan   Aug-16-11 09:21 AM   #4 
  - California TTBR  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-17-11 03:39 PM   #5 
  - Thank you, OTOH, for these links! -nt  eowyn_of_rohan   Aug-17-11 06:19 PM   #6 
  - The only approved trustworthy solution for the Wisconsin for the handicapped is Vote Pad  Ellipsis   Aug-18-11 12:32 AM   #7 
  - Some stuff from Brad  Ellipsis   Aug-18-11 01:31 AM   #8 
  - Can't believe we are even discussing this... all DREs are BAD!!  Yellow Horse   Aug-22-11 01:22 AM   #9 
  - The state of Wisconsin has aproved them for voting for the handicapped... not her.  Ellipsis   Aug-22-11 11:27 AM   #10 
     - Hey Ellipsis, I think the term "disabled" is the one you want to use.  Wilms   Aug-22-11 12:54 PM   #11 
        - Thanks... I live to learn and I certainly have here.  Ellipsis   Aug-23-11 01:39 AM   #12 
           - The correct term is "people with disabilities" and these machines are NOT accessible for them.  Yellow Horse   Aug-24-11 07:19 AM   #13 
              - I always just called them by their name.  Ellipsis   Aug-24-11 10:15 PM   #15 
              - Thanks YH.  Wilms   Aug-25-11 11:05 AM   #16 
                 - DREs are bad, but the same software counts paper ballots and the results are rarely confirmed. nt  Bill Bored   Aug-26-11 12:28 PM   #17 
  - Ehh, just how far can ya spit???  benld74   Aug-24-11 09:53 PM   #14 
  - It's not so much the machines  GETPLANING   Sep-06-11 09:46 AM   #18 

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