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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 04:16 PM
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54. I don't think TIA was tombstoned for 'fighting back'
I think he was tombstoned for repeatedly smearing people. I say that based on the representation of the mods and my personal experience of being smeared. Many of us lose our tempers, but most of us don't repeatedly accuse other posters of being operatives. My impression was that he couldn't control the behavior because it reflected his thinking. TIA has a really hard time accepting that anyone could actually disagree with him. I think that twice I actually got him to acknowledge outright errors in his work (once as himself, I think once as one of his sock puppets), but it was a struggle both times. Anything that involves judgment -- for instance, how much sense it makes to think that Kerry won New York by over 30 points -- is pretty much hopeless.

Anyway, TIA on Wisconsin right now seems to be all about questions. "Considering the heavy union turnout, how did Kloppenburg's vote share decline by 6.5% from Obama's?" I guess my short answer is: uh, whut? My slightly longer answer is: if TIA was actually surprised that Kloppenburg didn't do as well as Obama, I think he is in a small minority. But there's nothing wrong with asking why Kloppenburg did so much worse in Milwaukee County.
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  -Okay whats the deal in Wisconsin? Ellipsis  Apr-07-11 11:03 PM   #0 
  - Sure seems compromised.  Wilms   Apr-07-11 11:38 PM   #1 
  - Are they really all DRE's with thermal tape readers?  Ellipsis   Apr-08-11 01:16 AM   #12 
     - Not all DRE. They're there for accessibility. Otherwise op scan.  Wilms   Apr-08-11 08:44 AM   #15 
        - He was a good sport, kinda bummed searched for his name and he wasn't there.  Ellipsis   Apr-08-11 04:21 PM   #16 
        - Aint no difference tween a DRE and an opscan, really. they are both computers,  robinlynne   May-19-11 01:31 PM   #65 
           - Thanks. I think I got it. n/t  Wilms   May-21-11 09:31 AM   #66 
  - This Vote Snafu Aside  Kalun D   Apr-07-11 11:43 PM   #2 
  - Apparently it is a 50/50 PURPLE state. n/t  Tx4obama   Apr-07-11 11:45 PM   #4 
  - Judges run as Independents, they have no party affilation...  Ellipsis   Apr-08-11 12:38 AM   #7 
  - Here's the run down  Tx4obama   Apr-07-11 11:44 PM   #3 
  - and seeing as how this thread is still active,  Lefta Dissenter   Apr-29-11 07:23 AM   #45 
  - Suspect all ya want.  karnac   Apr-08-11 12:07 AM   #5 
  - I talked to geek once and he mentioned some old board he...  Ellipsis   Apr-08-11 12:45 AM   #8 
  - I 'm not suspecting, I'm trouble shooting. It should be done, while it's fresh.  Ellipsis   Apr-08-11 12:53 AM   #9 
  - but if you  Lefta Dissenter   Apr-29-11 07:50 AM   #46 
  - We'll find it ...or maybe you will. Hah  Ellipsis   Apr-29-11 01:32 PM   #48 
  - Then hand counted paper ballots with 3 watchers would work a lot better, yes?  robinlynne   May-05-11 11:30 PM   #63 
  - How is it possible that votes were shown to have been 100% in from  JDPriestly   Apr-08-11 12:17 AM   #6 
  - There are 191 precincts as I understand.  Ellipsis   Apr-08-11 01:05 AM   #10 
  - looks like your looking for stats  karnac   Apr-08-11 01:08 AM   #11 
  - The coyote has some data.  Ellipsis   Apr-08-11 01:21 AM   #13 
  - Link to County Gov PDF. Over 18,000 votes cast in Waukesha County for ONLY Supreme Court  Ellipsis   Apr-08-11 01:28 AM   #14 
  - Heard a speech from Electronic Frontier Foundation guy  catrose   Apr-09-11 04:54 PM   #17 
  - Hrdware in Waukesha County  Ellipsis   Apr-09-11 07:55 PM   #18 
  - not sure where you're going with this  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-09-11 09:58 PM   #19 
     - I haven't a clue... I'm just bringing some content together...  Ellipsis   Apr-09-11 10:29 PM   #20 
     - that's fair  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-09-11 11:11 PM   #21 
        - "...obviously it was [indeed] a very close election..."  Wilms   Apr-10-11 11:43 AM   #27 
           - depends...  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-10-11 01:50 PM   #29 
     - Have to agree.  Wilms   Apr-10-11 11:40 AM   #26 
  - Here's an interesting Factoid...or fiction, who knows?  Ellipsis   Apr-10-11 12:11 AM   #22 
  - Debunked  Ellipsis   Apr-10-11 12:54 AM   #23 
  - self delete n/t  Melissa G   Apr-14-11 12:27 PM   #36 
  - Waukesha County Clerk Embroiled in Controversy for Years  Ellipsis   Apr-10-11 12:56 AM   #24 
  - The Milwaukee County DA & GAB to hold News conference on, separate, unrelated to "the 14000" story  Ellipsis   Apr-11-11 10:00 AM   #31 
  - Railroad executive charged with campaign law violations (WISCONSIN)  Ellipsis   Apr-11-11 01:18 PM   #32 
  - And, in Wisconsin, the plot thickens...  Ellipsis   Apr-11-11 03:01 PM   #33 
  - Kathys special software  Ellipsis   Apr-29-11 01:51 PM   #51 
  - Prosser outperformed other Republican candidates in Waukesha County in recent history  Ellipsis   Apr-10-11 11:51 AM   #28 
  - Hurtsti Hack  Ellipsis   Apr-10-11 05:43 PM   #30 
  - Hinky!  Ellipsis   Apr-12-11 07:18 AM   #34 
  - Stinky!  Ellipsis   Apr-12-11 03:01 PM   #35 
     - Pinky!  Ellipsis   Apr-22-11 08:46 PM   #38 
        - I so did not see that coming... n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-23-11 11:53 AM   #39 
  - (Wis.) Deal reached for hand recount in 31 counties for Kloppenburg Prosser race.  Ellipsis   Apr-21-11 08:10 PM   #37 
  - BRADBLOGS's Excellent compendium on Waukesha County and the recount... a must read  Ellipsis   Apr-23-11 12:45 PM   #40 
  - Marathon County, only county in the state that uses ES&S M100 opscans  Ellipsis   Apr-23-11 01:05 PM   #41 
  - Sorry, Columbus uses all 100's ..Portage has one, Manitowoc a couple, Douglas has several...  Ellipsis   Apr-23-11 02:24 PM   #42 
  - Wisconsin GAB Recount Daily Update (Excel Spreadsheet) link  Ellipsis   Apr-29-11 12:21 AM   #43 
  - I wonder why  Lefta Dissenter   Apr-29-11 07:11 AM   #44 
     - darn  Lefta Dissenter   Apr-29-11 08:15 AM   #47 
        - Here is GAB's explanation  Ellipsis   Apr-29-11 01:45 PM   #49 
           - Would you explain specifically  Lefta Dissenter   Apr-30-11 07:15 AM   #52 
              - The bulk of his stuff is based off exit polling data.  Ellipsis   Apr-30-11 03:25 PM   #53 
                 - I don't think TIA was tombstoned for 'fighting back'  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-30-11 04:16 PM   #54 
                    - People tend to forget that the Supreme court race in Wisconsin doesn't list political affiliation.  Ellipsis   Apr-30-11 05:03 PM   #55 
                       - Falk vs Doyle Imagery and speculation  Ellipsis   Apr-30-11 06:23 PM   #56 
                       - cool analysis  OnTheOtherHand   May-02-11 06:03 AM   #58 
                          - FYI - Population density, income, retirees, farm forest housing visuals  Ellipsis   May-02-11 03:18 PM   #59 
                          - dammit, that gave me a sick idea  OnTheOtherHand   May-02-11 04:27 PM   #60 
                          - FWIW - Lower Falk votes in Dane Co  eowyn_of_rohan   May-03-11 07:05 AM   #61 
                       - I made a scatterplot  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-30-11 07:20 PM   #57 
  - Voting Equipment in use by Wisconsin Municipality  Ellipsis   Apr-29-11 01:49 PM   #50 
  - kicking this again  Lefta Dissenter   May-05-11 10:27 AM   #62 
  - I suspect a few of those may have been honest blunders, but  gkhouston   May-09-11 01:11 PM   #64 
  - Election Shell Game  dael   May-22-11 12:46 AM   #67 
  - Rachel...she said hinky. Heh. (video enclosed) "It was human error."  Ellipsis   Oct-13-11 08:15 PM   #68 
     - No really it was human error... honest... really, I'm not kidding.  Ellipsis   Oct-13-11 09:23 PM   #69 

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