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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 06:24 PM
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17. The U.S. doesn't need a 3rd party, it needs a 2nd party to...
counter the GOP. The Democratic Party does not want to fight the GOP; they are deathly afraid of the GOP and act like it. There is no substantive ideology (other than that framed by the GOP), a growing hostility toward anyone/thing to the "left" of Eisenhower, and an enduring desire to placate corporate power, both here and abroad.

If one wishes to start a "new movement" to counter the GOP, then wrest control of the Democratic Party away from those in charge now.
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  -Would a Third Party Throw the 2012 Presidential Election to the Repubs? Bill Bored  Dec-06-10 02:30 PM   #0 
  - Yes  dtotire   Dec-06-10 02:32 PM   #1 
  - Is this on anyone's radar? Has anyone figured out which states could be used to do it?  Bill Bored   Dec-06-10 02:38 PM   #4 
     - The potential for political fraud and mischief  mvymvy   Dec-07-10 10:45 AM   #16 
        - It's easier to verify who wins individual states. We just don't do it!  Bill Bored   Dec-07-10 11:16 PM   #20 
  - Yes, it has to be a majority of electoral votes.  MineralMan   Dec-06-10 02:35 PM   #2 
  - What about National Popular Vote (NPV)? Would that system require a majority? nt  Bill Bored   Dec-06-10 02:44 PM   #6 
     - We don't have that system, so I can't say. It doesn't seem  MineralMan   Dec-06-10 02:45 PM   #7 
     - Well it's closer than you think. See here:  Bill Bored   Dec-07-10 12:33 AM   #13 
        - Majority? Making NPV happen requires a Constitutional  MineralMan   Dec-07-10 08:08 AM   #14 
        - NPV does not require a Con. amendment, although that would be the better way to achieve it. nt  Bill Bored   Dec-07-10 11:09 PM   #19 
        - The National Popular Vote bill  mvymvy   Dec-07-10 10:37 AM   #15 
           - OK, so NPV does NOT require a majority of the NPV -- only "the most popular votes?"  Bill Bored   Dec-07-10 11:06 PM   #18 
     - You mean if we did away with the Electoral College?  hlthe2b   Dec-06-10 03:06 PM   #10 
  - Yup... it is so hard for a third party candidate to win in any state  hlthe2b   Dec-06-10 02:36 PM   #3 
  - Thanks and see post #6, nt  Bill Bored   Dec-06-10 02:45 PM   #8 
  - Not if it is the Teaparty running as a third party.  yourout   Dec-06-10 02:39 PM   #5 
  - It won't take a third party  notesdev   Dec-06-10 02:49 PM   #9 
  - True that.  eilen   Dec-06-10 03:07 PM   #11 
     - That's exactly what needs to be done  notesdev   Dec-06-10 04:07 PM   #12 
  - The U.S. doesn't need a 3rd party, it needs a 2nd party to...  SteveM   Dec-07-10 06:24 PM   #17 

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