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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 02:36 PM
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3. Yup... it is so hard for a third party candidate to win in any state
which would be required (in most winner takes all states) to garner any electoral votes, that the system is really stacked against the process. I saw some stats somewhere that showed the number of elections where an incumbent President faced primary challenger and how in recent decades this has always thrown the election to the other side. I can't seem to find the link where I read that, but maybe someone else can more readily.
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  -Would a Third Party Throw the 2012 Presidential Election to the Repubs? Bill Bored  Dec-06-10 02:30 PM   #0 
  - Yes  dtotire   Dec-06-10 02:32 PM   #1 
  - Is this on anyone's radar? Has anyone figured out which states could be used to do it?  Bill Bored   Dec-06-10 02:38 PM   #4 
     - The potential for political fraud and mischief  mvymvy   Dec-07-10 10:45 AM   #16 
        - It's easier to verify who wins individual states. We just don't do it!  Bill Bored   Dec-07-10 11:16 PM   #20 
  - Yes, it has to be a majority of electoral votes.  MineralMan   Dec-06-10 02:35 PM   #2 
  - What about National Popular Vote (NPV)? Would that system require a majority? nt  Bill Bored   Dec-06-10 02:44 PM   #6 
     - We don't have that system, so I can't say. It doesn't seem  MineralMan   Dec-06-10 02:45 PM   #7 
     - Well it's closer than you think. See here:  Bill Bored   Dec-07-10 12:33 AM   #13 
        - Majority? Making NPV happen requires a Constitutional  MineralMan   Dec-07-10 08:08 AM   #14 
        - NPV does not require a Con. amendment, although that would be the better way to achieve it. nt  Bill Bored   Dec-07-10 11:09 PM   #19 
        - The National Popular Vote bill  mvymvy   Dec-07-10 10:37 AM   #15 
           - OK, so NPV does NOT require a majority of the NPV -- only "the most popular votes?"  Bill Bored   Dec-07-10 11:06 PM   #18 
     - You mean if we did away with the Electoral College?  hlthe2b   Dec-06-10 03:06 PM   #10 
  - Yup... it is so hard for a third party candidate to win in any state  hlthe2b   Dec-06-10 02:36 PM   #3 
  - Thanks and see post #6, nt  Bill Bored   Dec-06-10 02:45 PM   #8 
  - Not if it is the Teaparty running as a third party.  yourout   Dec-06-10 02:39 PM   #5 
  - It won't take a third party  notesdev   Dec-06-10 02:49 PM   #9 
  - True that.  eilen   Dec-06-10 03:07 PM   #11 
     - That's exactly what needs to be done  notesdev   Dec-06-10 04:07 PM   #12 
  - The U.S. doesn't need a 3rd party, it needs a 2nd party to...  SteveM   Dec-07-10 06:24 PM   #17 

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