Bill Bored
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Mon Nov-29-10 02:09 AM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 36. It seems hard to get if it relies on finding problems in a 3% sample. |
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That's not working here in NY for our close races, as predicted. And I'm not convinced our 3% sample is truly random either because the election law that requires a manual process for random selection has been violated.
Frankly I don't know what these so-called "election lawyers" are doing for a living these days if they're not investigating all this, or if they're using the results of these 3% audits to decide whether to count every vote in close races.
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| -ERIE COUNTY NY: The problem wasn't the memory cards -- just the software that READS them! |
Bill Bored |
Nov-18-10 12:09 AM |
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I live in Buffalo, looks like voting was a waste of my time, soon NY will go RED |
Dragonfli |
Nov-18-10 10:53 AM |
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Voting is not a waste of time. There's a chance our votes may be counted as cast - just no proof. nt |
Bill Bored |
Nov-18-10 01:49 PM |
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Without proof, money gets to win. They are only kept honest by proof |
Dragonfli |
Nov-18-10 02:05 PM |
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Don't get me wrong. Proof is good! LOVE THE PROOF! But if you don't vote... |
Bill Bored |
Nov-19-10 12:31 AM |
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Paranoid much? |
TheWraith |
Nov-18-10 02:18 PM |
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I'm a programmer, is knowledge paranoia? I know what can be done with the software. |
Dragonfli |
Nov-18-10 07:20 PM |
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Thanks, but I've been working with computers for about 20 years now. |
TheWraith |
Nov-19-10 03:27 AM |
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Silly assumption: Anything wrong in the software count will show up in the 3% canvass. nt |
Bill Bored |
Nov-20-10 12:42 AM |
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Silly assumption: that 2 plus 2 equals purple. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-10 02:21 AM |
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The effects of cluster sampling would invalidate what I think you're trying to say. |
Bill Bored |
Nov-21-10 09:25 PM |
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its about Public Confidence in Outcome of Election |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Nov-20-10 08:20 PM |
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Paranoid NOT! "Paper ballots for recounts and auditing" = bait and switch! |
Bill Bored |
Nov-19-10 12:47 AM |
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Okay, how much knowledge do you have about statistics and the Board of Elections? |
TheWraith |
Nov-19-10 03:25 AM |
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Thanks for being a poll watcher but the 3% audit is bullshit. Read and learn: |
Bill Bored |
Nov-20-10 12:37 AM |
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Your link is irrelevant. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-10 02:28 AM |
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3% Audits are ok |
BeFree |
Nov-21-10 09:42 AM |
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that isn't "what the experts all say" at all |
OnTheOtherHand |
Nov-21-10 07:57 PM |
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well |
BeFree |
Nov-21-10 09:32 PM |
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A 10% audit of each and every machine... |
Bill Bored |
Nov-21-10 09:44 PM |
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90% confidence |
BeFree |
Nov-21-10 10:18 PM |
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Your math is not right for all elections because 10% is not right for all elections. |
Bill Bored |
Nov-21-10 11:34 PM |
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well Bill |
BeFree |
Nov-22-10 12:24 PM |
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It's not simple and not doable. If it were, someone would do it. |
Bill Bored |
Nov-23-10 12:42 AM |
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OK, now I know what you're talking about |
OnTheOtherHand |
Nov-22-10 07:00 AM |
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actually, think about this some more |
OnTheOtherHand |
Nov-21-10 07:53 PM |
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You are not very well informed. Try this: |
Bill Bored |
Nov-21-10 09:13 PM |
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You're the one who clearly doesn't understand how a 3% audit works. |
TheWraith |
Nov-22-10 10:18 PM |
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Dude, sorry to break this news to you but NY Election Law says to audit 3% of SCANNERS! nt |
Bill Bored |
Nov-23-10 12:28 AM |
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Crickets. nt |
Bill Bored |
Nov-27-10 01:28 AM |
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definitely NY needs better audits if using computer vote counting |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Nov-27-10 07:30 AM |
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As I understand it, NC does full hand counts for the closest races. |
Bill Bored |
Nov-27-10 10:17 PM |
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there's an IF in here |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Nov-28-10 09:35 PM |
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It seems hard to get if it relies on finding problems in a 3% sample. |
Bill Bored |
Nov-29-10 02:09 AM |
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More links (this time from the American Statistical Association): |
Bill Bored |
Nov-21-10 09:34 PM |
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low turnout a really bad idea. Consider Bell, California |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Nov-18-10 03:03 PM |
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oh oh! |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Nov-18-10 11:55 AM |
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