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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 12:42 AM
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31. It's not simple and not doable. If it were, someone would do it.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 12:48 AM by Bill Bored
To date, there hasn't even been a pilot of the audit you're advocating, and besides, it's very susceptible to fraud by faulty aggregation of either the machine tallies or the audit tallies. In theory, I agree it's OK though. I wouldn't be against it in principle, but it's not going to happen. Neither are risk-limiting audits based on machines or precincts, at least not on a large scale.

Like I said, the PTB want to trust the machines they've spent millions of our taxpayer dollars on, and that's the story they're sticking to.

We've got crucial elections here in New York right now that would have been decided by non-computerized lever machines, and hand counts of absentee ballots. Instead, so far we've got lots of software-based results, hand counts of 3% of the computers, and in the closet races, hand counts of the absentee ballots that account for about 5% of the vote. If that's how we're determining our election results, clearly the lever and hand-count system would have been far superior.

The courts may decide that 3% of scanners is a good enough hand count because the idiots in the NY Legislature decided that it would be enough a few years ago.

There is only one thing that is likely to save us and that's the state constitution. If that fails, or no one uses it in court, we're done for.
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