Reply #8: Ever hear of Bush v. Gore?

[Bill Bored]

If you want a hand count of more than 3% in NY, you have to go to court. Just like Bush and Gore! Partisan judges get to decide if your votes will be "verified" now.

I'm tired of hearing about paper that will never be counted, will only be counted if a judge says so (assuming the losing candidate can afford to pay election lawyers to sue for the hand count), or may only be counted if a 3% audit finds some discrepancies.

So far, these paper ballots are a bait and switch. Computers count the votes, kind of like Stalin.

Try to understand that lever voting machines are NOT computers and cannot be exploited to rig elections by switching votes the way computers can. So they don't need a paper trail the way computers do.

"Verifiable" voting means nothing if no one verifies enough of the vote. That's a lot harder to do than you might think and almost no election officials want to be bothered with it, esp. in NY where they are used to lever voting machines.

The officials who say the ballot scanners (and of course DREs) can be hacked, and therefore should not be used, are the honest ones. I have no use for the rest of 'em.

See this thread since you're in upstate NY:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...