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Reply #28: Thanks Fly. Well unfortunately, some Dems in Congress were the REAL Holt-bill assassins. [View All]

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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 03:16 PM
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28. Thanks Fly. Well unfortunately, some Dems in Congress were the REAL Holt-bill assassins.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 03:26 PM by Bill Bored
In particular, Steny Hoyer apparently just loves his state of Maryland's unverifiable election system (and yours too)! His fellow Dems seemingly tolerate this.

The blogger you're referring to, if I have it right, was not strongly against the latest version of the Holt bill, which is not HR811. And there have been many improvements to the bill as a result of some critics (not just him). For example, only in the latest version does the bill even ban Internet connections to GEMS and other EMS computers which could be used to rig elections beyond recognition! It was a hard-fought battle WITH RUSH HOLT himself to get that to happen. At least that's my take on it.

Holt has been described as a "Boy Scout" when it comes to some of these issues, even by some of his supporters. I think it's not unreasonable to try to find another ally in Congress, even if it's a Republican one. The alleged Christian dominionist, veterinarian, and adulterer Senator John Ensign (R - Nevada) has actually had a pretty good bill in the Senate for years, unlike any other Republican bill. I'm a bit mystified as to why it did not receive wider support from the E.I. community. Andy Stephenson and Verified Voting supported it in the beginning.

I'm wondering what Ensign's game is if it's not what it appears to be.

The Dems have had both houses of Congress and the Executive Branch for 2 years. Do you think the Senate Repubs would have filibustered the Senate clone of the Holt bill if the House version had passed?

Unfortunately, I have to blame the Dems as well as the Repubs for a lot of our election integrity troubles, as you have in TN.

As to the fellowships, lots of people are making money off the voting-industrial complex. Vendors and their shills try to advance it while others try to control it. Very few try to do away with it, which would require a little backbone and some groundbreaking litigation.

Larry Norden of the Brennan Center told Dan Rather recently that we as a nation have decided our elections should be privatized. WTF do you reckon he's been smoking (for non-medicinal purposes)? His "solution" now is to create a database of voting system problems. (Hasn't VotersUnite! been doing that since their inception?)

I have one more question for you: what happened to David G. Mills and his case in TN?
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