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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 04:44 AM
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27. Surely.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 04:52 AM by Fly by night
The "fellowships" comment referred to one of our more well-known vanity bloggers who railed incessently against the Holt bill because it wasn't perfect, thereby helping fracture the election integrity community and make the passage of a good and important bill impossible. That person is a friend of mine (and he has enjoyed at least one fellowship for his activism) but his head is way up his ass on this issue.

In delaying the TN Voter Confidence Act until 2012, the Rethugs (with the help of one scum-bag Dem (sic) legislator from Manchuria) also amended the bill as follows:

1) If enacted, only the top race in each election cycle would be audited, thereby insuring that no state legislative race would ever be examined. All other audits would be voluntary, subject to the call of the State Election Coordinator (who, now in Tennessee, is a Regent University Law School grad -- the Pat Robertson-controlled breeding ground for Christian dominionists -- who has stated publicly ad nauseum that there is no evidence anywhere that DREs are problematic).

2) The audits would not be hand-counts but simply another run through another opscan machine. The logistical difficulties (and cost) of this amendment should have been enough to prevent it. However, like everything else in the Tennessee legislature, Rethugs are taking the position that winning isn't everything, it is the ONLY thing. How better to insure that gamed elections stand than to audit our elections with the same gamed equipment we are supposedly auditing.

At this point, I have no intention of lobbying for the enactment of the amended TVCA since it would accomplish nothing to root out election fraud in Tennessee. (Even though it has been gutted, I expect that the Rethugs will reject it anyway as "unnecessary.") Besides, I have no evidence that this current pack of Rethug racists, pug-ugly jackels and Hooters girls (s)elected for our legislature were chosen legitimately through the consent of the governed. Therefore, I do not consent to acknowledge their legitimacy since they have none. That also means that I will not waste my time lobbying anymore for our Safe Access to Medical Cannabis bill. Any time spent with our legislature would be wasted time. I would much rather watch the grass grow (preferably in another cannabis-friendly state).

Thanks, BB, for your questions. I am pleased that this thread keeps being read by someone (85 more readers since last night.) I just wish there was any backbone left in the Democratic Party in Tennessee. Our leaders (sic) are falling all over themselves this weekend blaming everything (but the unverifiable machines) for our unprecedented, unexpected, and unbelievable losses in the legislature. How pluperfectly stupid can they be?

Well, on this score, I intend to hide and watch, while sharpening my own atlatl. I see the Rethug "concern" troll on this thread with that nickname hasn't returned since I asked him to identify his political affiliation. No surprise there. These thieves are cowards also.
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  -Look what just happened to Tennessee's legislature (and why we'll never know why) Fly by night  Nov-03-10 05:35 PM   #0 
  - I hope to see the day when every one of those machines is landfill.  aquart   Nov-03-10 05:40 PM   #1 
  - I think MN. had "voting machine and worker" issues.  glinda   Nov-03-10 05:59 PM   #2 
  - K&R n/t  RainDog   Nov-03-10 06:16 PM   #3 
  - On another related thread, someone posted this analysis:  Fly by night   Nov-03-10 06:29 PM   #4 
  - Biased media sets everyone up for expected outcome.  Yellow Horse   Nov-04-10 08:11 AM   #9 
  - K&R  EFerrari   Nov-03-10 07:15 PM   #5 
  - K&R  Canuckistanian   Nov-03-10 10:27 PM   #6 
  - PA's in the same boat, and the new wrinkle here now is no one will even talk about voting machines.  demodonkey   Nov-04-10 07:18 AM   #7 
  - Damn straight, DemoD! Sorry for your continued lack of demonstrable democracy too.  Fly by night   Nov-04-10 07:30 AM   #8 
     - Can you say more about the fellowships?  Bill Bored   Nov-07-10 05:59 PM   #26 
        - Surely.  Fly by night   Nov-08-10 04:44 AM   #27 
           - Thanks Fly. Well unfortunately, some Dems in Congress were the REAL Holt-bill assassins.  Bill Bored   Nov-08-10 02:16 PM   #28 
              - Passing Holt (any version) would not have been easy, given the entrenched farces of evil ...  Fly by night   Nov-09-10 06:16 AM   #29 
  - K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   Nov-04-10 01:26 PM   #10 
  - An honest question for you?  Atlatl   Nov-04-10 05:11 PM   #11 
  - Ever heard of HAVA?  BeFree   Nov-04-10 07:10 PM   #12 
  - Welcome to DU. Here's my answer.  Fly by night   Nov-05-10 05:33 AM   #13 
  - a few points...  Atlatl   Nov-05-10 07:05 PM   #20 
     - And a few responses (while still waiting for your answer to the question I posed below)  Fly by night   Nov-06-10 06:06 AM   #23 
  - One last point, "spear-chucker".  Fly by night   Nov-05-10 05:52 AM   #14 
     - I don't think they used atlatls at the Battle of Athens (TN), but ...  Fly by night   Nov-05-10 06:23 AM   #15 
     - In response to my question, I hear .... crickets.  Fly by night   Nov-05-10 08:57 AM   #16 
        - .....and hoot owls  Fly by night   Nov-05-10 01:43 PM   #17 
        - ..... and tree frogs  Fly by night   Nov-05-10 05:36 PM   #18 
        - Day job...  Atlatl   Nov-05-10 07:08 PM   #21 
           - And you still haven't answered my question.  Fly by night   Nov-06-10 04:16 AM   #22 
  - This sounds terrible Fly By Night...  althecat   Nov-05-10 06:39 PM   #19 
  - It is. Do y'all need a typist (or a dual-degreed janitor) down under?  Fly by night   Nov-07-10 04:56 AM   #24 
  - This one reminds me a bit of what they tried to do to Harry Reid:  Bill Bored   Nov-07-10 05:54 PM   #25 
 

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