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Reply #3: Yeah, Hertzberg worked for DoD, but now we've got an ex-"hippy"-commune guy pushing Internet Voting! [View All]

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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 02:26 PM
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3. Yeah, Hertzberg worked for DoD, but now we've got an ex-"hippy"-commune guy pushing Internet Voting!
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 02:42 PM by Bill Bored
Which do you think is a greater danger to democracy?

An ex-DoD guy trying to discredit DREs in Ohio and Florida, or a self-described "progressive" and self-appointed expert pushing Internet voting everywhere?

It doesn't trouble me in the least that exit poll discrepancies, which are among the weakest "evidence" for election fraud, may have taken it on the chin as a result of some of Hertzberg's work.

If you want a conspiracy theory, here's one:

A bunch of right-wing COINTELPRO folks get together and decide to get the left all jerked up about exit polls so they ignore any real evidence of miscounted votes and obviously unverifiable votes (e.g., Ohio's 2004 punch-card ballot-order rotation scam), and any plausible suggestions about how to deal with those problems. Divert attention from real election fraud (and fraud waiting to happen) and any potential reform by getting everyone chasing their tails over exit poll discrepancies.

Then once the DREs are finally discredited, as they have been in most states (esp. paperless DREs), bring on the Internet voting!

Meanwhile, make sure no one hand-counts enough of the original optically scanned PAPER BALLOTS to find out who won any rigged elections. This can be done by systematically killing any legislation that would require this kind of audit, and by making such audits so complex that they can no longer be understood by anyone who'd have to implement them, and could not be conducted soon enough after an election to prevent paper-ballot tampering because of the amount of data required to initiate the maximally complex audit.

The result: even with paper ballots, elections remain unverified, while Internet voting is seen as a viable option and is actually being seriously considered.

Whether it's a conspiracy or not, that's what's been happening since 2004 and the only ones to benefit from it are voting system vendors and anyone who does NOT want verified electoral outcomes.
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