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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 01:21 PM
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23. Some people
have a very naive view of how complex counting the votes in an election is. If we had simple UNIFORM ballots in all 3,000+ counties (each county makes its own rules, subject to state and federal standards), then an argument could be made for HCPA being the best method, but reality is quite different from ideal.

If I recall, in 2004 during the recall election of Gray Davis, the ballot ran 40+ pages. Heck my last ballot was 11x17, front and back and covered almost 30 races, bond issues, and such.

It seems the folks screaming the loudest from unconditional HCPB, are people who have never bothered to witness the process first hand.

Of course you can go accuse all of them of attempted fraud. That'll be a real conversation starter.


You put your finger on the best way to keep change from ever occurring. People who run elections can get pretty shirty about being called crooks. Whenever I dealt with them I was always respectful, and tried to explain to them that while I trusted them, they should NEVER trust the vendors. If they insisted on trusting vendors, their own integrity would suffer. Since we were just coming off an election where they had gotten burned by a major machine failure that caused them lots of grief, public humiliation and money, they were receptive to that view.

The major problem I saw in the entire discussion was election officials getting too trusting of the vendors. Since in every election they worked with vendors to make things go smoothly, they kind of saw themselves on the same side. I did my damndest to disabuse them of this view.

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