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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:51 PM
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4. It bothers me more that the Dems do nothing about it.
Edited on Wed Aug-18-10 09:02 PM by Bill Bored
Consider that vote switching without detection is possible with DREs, optical scanners and punch cards. That's all 3 classes of electronic voting systems. But Dems and Repubs are both responsible for doing away with the one type of voting system, other than hand-counting, that makes vote switching between candidates physically impossible -- the lever voting machine.

To rule out enough of the vote switching that is possible with the other 3 systems so as to be reasonably certain of who won and who lost elections, esp. non-statewide elections, is so complex and onerous that no one in power wants to do it -- neither Dem nor Repub state legislators or county election boards. (There are of course a few exceptions, but they are not enough to protect the franchise.)

So I'd have to argue that the Dems are complicit -- and I don't see much help coming from the third parties either.

I can only think of 3 possible reasons Democrats would tolerate voting systems that permit votes to be switched between candidates:

1. they want to preserve their own ability to cheat; or

2. they trust the Republicans, or their own Democratic election lawyers (who by and large know little about e-vote counting and how to verify computerized results); or

3. they are just plain stupid.

Which of these do you think is most likely, or could it be all 3?
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