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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:39 AM
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14. The Brennan Center brought up "preclearence" in their complaint to the DOJ.
They claimed:

"After extensive research, we have concluded that these (overvote notification) policies violate New York State law and should have been precleared with the Department of Justice, pursuant to Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. This apparently was not done. We have alerted the Department of Justice, and the New York State and City Boards to our findings." /

Here's their notice of "Unprecleared Voting Change"

That wasn't my idea. However, the SBOE claims they're voting system was precleared, which is not my idea either. In seeking preclearance, the SBOE misrepresented the operation of the voting system.

You are correct that the actual lawsuit is about Section 2, which is not preclearance, but the defendants are going to say the system was precleared by the DOJ.
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  -Brennan Center Drops The Ball On WNYC Radio As Host Suggests Keeping Levers Would Prevent Overvoting Bill Bored  Jul-15-10 01:14 AM   #0 
  - As much as they got right I cringed at their seeming unfamiliarity with the technology.  Wilms   Jul-15-10 01:39 AM   #1 
  - The configuration change would not take long.  Bill Bored   Jul-15-10 01:48 AM   #2 
     - How long to recert? n/t  Wilms   Jul-15-10 02:26 AM   #3 
        - Long time. But that's only if we assume compliance with the election law.  Bill Bored   Jul-15-10 12:45 PM   #5 
           - plus $ to recertify. about $100K for small fixes, $1 M for whole system change  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jul-15-10 08:30 PM   #8 
           - MONEY IS NO OBJECT when it comes to replacing lever machines! nt  Bill Bored   Jul-17-10 12:55 AM   #12 
           - yeah, it's a Voting Rights Act lawsuit  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-16-10 07:23 AM   #10 
              - The VRA applies to Kings, New York and Bronx counties in NY.  Bill Bored   Jul-16-10 04:26 PM   #11 
                 - the VRA applies to the entire country, but not viz preclearance  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-17-10 08:01 AM   #13 
                    - The Brennan Center brought up "preclearence" in their complaint to the DOJ.  Bill Bored   Jul-18-10 12:39 AM   #14 
                       - the _memo_ to the DoJ isn't relevant  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-18-10 09:20 AM   #15 
                          - No law or regulation says overvoted ballots should be retained.  Bill Bored   Jul-18-10 05:41 PM   #16 
                             - seems like a non sequitur to me  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-18-10 07:35 PM   #17 
                                - In case you haven't noticed, we've been bombarded with all kinds of (false) assurances...  Bill Bored   Jul-18-10 08:07 PM   #18 
                                   - That's a bit more clear than your previous post.  Wilms   Jul-19-10 04:11 AM   #19 
                                      - Yes, everyone looked it over, and they were warned after the problem was found in FL in 2008.  Bill Bored   Jul-19-10 08:44 PM   #20 
  - WTF is the Brennan Center and who elected them?  aquart   Jul-15-10 04:25 AM   #4 
     - Excellent question! Here are some answers:  Bill Bored   Jul-15-10 01:06 PM   #6 
        - Thank you. They and I seem to have irreconciliable differences.  aquart   Jul-15-10 02:34 PM   #7 
           - On the other hand, they sued to improve the undervote rate on NYC levers a few years ago and...  Bill Bored   Jul-16-10 12:36 AM   #9 

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