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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:13 PM
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20. Why is it a cheap shot? Because it's so obvious?
Well, obvious to some. But I'm missing why it's cheap.

And if I've misinterpreted Lipari, I'm open to a better understanding of the issue. (I'm not an organization with a mission statement, so if I'm wrong about something, I'm free to correct it.)

I figured he was pro-opscan because he was anti-DRE. But then he claimed to be anti-lever, too. And while he agrees that auditing is really important, I'm not clear that he has really said or done much with regard to the 3% fixed audit in NY. That ain't enough. I know it. You know it. And Bo??? Well he's pushing OpScan.

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  -How many years of service are expected from OpScanners, BMDs, and DREs? Wilms  Apr-18-10 10:41 AM   #0 
  - I was once told by an elections official that the machines were only supposed to last 3 to 5 years  diva77   Apr-18-10 02:44 PM   #1 
  - Hmmm. I wonder how many jurisdiction might opt for HCPB come replacement time.  Wilms   Apr-18-10 03:14 PM   #2 
  - None. Absolutely zero.  Yellow Horse   Apr-18-10 06:50 PM   #3 
     - Then let's see an affadavit from one of them claiming that.  Wilms   Apr-18-10 07:09 PM   #4 
     - I'm not selling anything. You are.  Yellow Horse   Apr-18-10 09:52 PM   #5 
        - Oh my. More misleading posting.  Wilms   Apr-18-10 10:46 PM   #8 
           - Don't blame me; you hijacked your own thread by bringing up HCPB. It started out as a question...  Yellow Horse   Apr-19-10 12:41 AM   #9 
              - If I followed what happened:  Wilms   Apr-19-10 03:43 AM   #10 
              - And then I suggested H.R. 2894 the Holt Bill as a better option for replacing worn out machines....  Yellow Horse   Apr-19-10 07:54 AM   #13 
              - smile  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-19-10 07:06 AM   #12 
                 - In fact, there are a number of people who ARE out to replace levers with computers.  Wilms   Apr-19-10 10:50 AM   #14 
                    - yes, many people think so  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-19-10 11:41 AM   #15 
                       - But those who hate levers offer no viable alternative; they just hate levers.  Bill Bored   Apr-19-10 12:26 PM   #16 
                          - ah, the world according to Bill  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-19-10 01:49 PM   #17 
                             - If you mean I can't think of a good argument to have mostly unaudited computers running elections...  Bill Bored   Apr-19-10 05:22 PM   #18 
                             - shrug  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-19-10 07:58 PM   #19 
                                - It's not a lack of understanding at all. A lot of people in NY just don't agree with Bo Lipari. nt  Bill Bored   Apr-19-10 11:15 PM   #21 
                             - Why is it a cheap shot? Because it's so obvious?  Wilms   Apr-19-10 09:13 PM   #20 
                                - you may need to review the thread  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-20-10 06:00 AM   #22 
                                   - I admit I don't follow.  Wilms   Apr-20-10 09:50 AM   #23 
     - It's the replacement of lever machines with computers that let the camel's nose under the tent.  Bill Bored   Apr-18-10 10:21 PM   #7 
  - I wonder which machines those were  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-19-10 06:24 AM   #11 
  - Op scanners: 1000 Years! DREs: 163 Hours. BMDs: Who knows?  Bill Bored   Apr-18-10 10:10 PM   #6 

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