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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 05:40 PM
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17. Wilms, I was present at every day of the proceedings on that suit. Yes it was pretty much tossed.
Edited on Tue Apr-13-10 05:48 PM by demodonkey

Wilms I am getting ready for meetings and running for re-election to State Committee here on the cause of election integrity, so I do NOT have time to get into a long harangue over this thread.

I will jump in and simply say that I was there when this particular case was argued in Pittsburgh. The judge emphatically refused to issue any injunction which would have stopped the installation of the DREs whether they were on their way or not (i.e. it would have saved the levers, at least for a time.) He then ruled that the case would be unlikely to succeed on its merits if it proceeded. He pretty much didn't buy ANY of the arguments about security, disability access, constitutionality, or whatever.

So yes technically the plaintiffs dropped this case, but believe me if you had heard the comments and rulings of the judge, "tossed by the judge" is much more accurate.

I don't think there are any jurisdictions moving to switch to DREs. Probably because counties that have paper-based systems generally like them, and scanners last longer than DREs. The scanners bought in 2006 generally don't need replacing right now, but some of the DREs are getting a little long in the tooth already.

As I said I am too busy right now for long discourse. Back to work.

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  -E-Vote Counting in the Filipines: "Fired up with faith and hope" Bill Bored  Apr-10-10 12:23 PM   #0 
  - This reminds me of those Nigerian email scams.  Wilms   Apr-10-10 12:37 PM   #1 
     - Reminds me of some of our New Yorkers, only it's a bit less secular.  Bill Bored   Apr-10-10 01:58 PM   #2 
     - Uncalled For.  Yellow Horse   Apr-11-10 04:55 AM   #3 
        - Are you, and have you been paying attention?  Wilms   Apr-11-10 08:35 AM   #4 
        - Indeed I have been paying attention; I joined DU 12/25/2004.  Yellow Horse   Apr-13-10 11:32 AM   #6 
           - We joined the same day.  Wilms   Apr-13-10 11:58 AM   #8 
           - Thread not hijacked. Much of NYS uses same e-voting system as the Phillipines.  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 01:21 PM   #11 
        - Talk about uncalled for. Look what Lipari writes about election activists.  Wilms   Apr-11-10 09:50 AM   #5 
           - I agree with what Bo Lipari wrote. It's common sense.  Yellow Horse   Apr-13-10 11:46 AM   #7 
              - Pardon?  Wilms   Apr-13-10 12:05 PM   #9 
              - Thank you for putting words into my mouth and then telling me to shut up.  Yellow Horse   Apr-13-10 01:50 PM   #12 
                 - While Bill Bored covered it well, I'll add that I agree that I don't know who you are.  Wilms   Apr-13-10 02:27 PM   #13 
                 - People haven't made the right legal arguments, have they?  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 02:53 PM   #14 
                    - Here's a case that was pretty close. It quickly got tossed.  Yellow Horse   Apr-13-10 03:27 PM   #15 
                       - Try not to be misleading.  Wilms   Apr-13-10 04:42 PM   #16 
                       - Wilms, I was present at every day of the proceedings on that suit. Yes it was pretty much tossed.  demodonkey   Apr-13-10 05:40 PM   #17 
                          - Well, thanks for chiming in despite the tight schedule.  Wilms   Apr-13-10 07:27 PM   #19 
                             - Quick reason why (IMO) and then I have to go to sleep...  demodonkey   Apr-13-10 10:39 PM   #21 
                       - Oh come on! You can do better than that, can't ya? This is not similar to the Nassau case at all.  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 06:04 PM   #18 
              - You're missing the point. It's not about Lipari. Here's the deal:  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 01:06 PM   #10 
                 - Speaking of the audit "...policy of Lipari, NYVV, the LWV ...", what's their position?  Wilms   Apr-13-10 08:42 PM   #20 
                    - Their position seems to be: kill the levers now; ask questions later. nt  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 11:04 PM   #22 
 

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