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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 02:27 PM
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13. While Bill Bored covered it well, I'll add that I agree that I don't know who you are.
Or you me. Does it matter? If this is so not about personalities it shouldn't. Right? I didn't put words in your mouth. You put Bo's word in it by "agreeing" with what he said.

No one prevents you from posting here. So perhaps with your contribution, the forum might be more active. But blaming the inactivity here on lever advocacy is the kind of ridiculous statement that I've come to expect from those who resent it. And comparing the rah-rah HCPB advocacy to the reality of the keep the lever movement is pretty poor analysis. County after county in NY state have passed resolutions to keep levers. You have a problem with, or smear about it?

Meanwhile, I think it was you that started the "real activist" notion. I paraphrased to suggest that people advocating lever retention are more qualified than computer advocates.

Now, I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but you seem to be saying that one should accept computerized vote counting because other states have had too. And that despite HAVA not requiring lever replacement, I should accept that "powerful forces" make it necessary. Is that right?

Computers are pretty powerful, alright.

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  -E-Vote Counting in the Filipines: "Fired up with faith and hope" Bill Bored  Apr-10-10 12:23 PM   #0 
  - This reminds me of those Nigerian email scams.  Wilms   Apr-10-10 12:37 PM   #1 
     - Reminds me of some of our New Yorkers, only it's a bit less secular.  Bill Bored   Apr-10-10 01:58 PM   #2 
     - Uncalled For.  Yellow Horse   Apr-11-10 04:55 AM   #3 
        - Are you, and have you been paying attention?  Wilms   Apr-11-10 08:35 AM   #4 
        - Indeed I have been paying attention; I joined DU 12/25/2004.  Yellow Horse   Apr-13-10 11:32 AM   #6 
           - We joined the same day.  Wilms   Apr-13-10 11:58 AM   #8 
           - Thread not hijacked. Much of NYS uses same e-voting system as the Phillipines.  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 01:21 PM   #11 
        - Talk about uncalled for. Look what Lipari writes about election activists.  Wilms   Apr-11-10 09:50 AM   #5 
           - I agree with what Bo Lipari wrote. It's common sense.  Yellow Horse   Apr-13-10 11:46 AM   #7 
              - Pardon?  Wilms   Apr-13-10 12:05 PM   #9 
              - Thank you for putting words into my mouth and then telling me to shut up.  Yellow Horse   Apr-13-10 01:50 PM   #12 
                 - While Bill Bored covered it well, I'll add that I agree that I don't know who you are.  Wilms   Apr-13-10 02:27 PM   #13 
                 - People haven't made the right legal arguments, have they?  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 02:53 PM   #14 
                    - Here's a case that was pretty close. It quickly got tossed.  Yellow Horse   Apr-13-10 03:27 PM   #15 
                       - Try not to be misleading.  Wilms   Apr-13-10 04:42 PM   #16 
                       - Wilms, I was present at every day of the proceedings on that suit. Yes it was pretty much tossed.  demodonkey   Apr-13-10 05:40 PM   #17 
                          - Well, thanks for chiming in despite the tight schedule.  Wilms   Apr-13-10 07:27 PM   #19 
                             - Quick reason why (IMO) and then I have to go to sleep...  demodonkey   Apr-13-10 10:39 PM   #21 
                       - Oh come on! You can do better than that, can't ya? This is not similar to the Nassau case at all.  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 06:04 PM   #18 
              - You're missing the point. It's not about Lipari. Here's the deal:  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 01:06 PM   #10 
                 - Speaking of the audit "...policy of Lipari, NYVV, the LWV ...", what's their position?  Wilms   Apr-13-10 08:42 PM   #20 
                    - Their position seems to be: kill the levers now; ask questions later. nt  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 11:04 PM   #22 

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