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Faun Otter Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 04:59 PM
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How the Republican's stole the Mass senate seat
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I have obtained the information that finally explains how the Senate election scam in Mass was pulled off.
The quoted "turnout" percentages are the sum of COUNTED votes divided by the number of registered voters times 100 (to make it a percentage) Therefore the "turnout" actually includes the cast votes were discarded without being counted.

How did the optical scanners that are now all owned by the Republicans perform compared with hand counting?
No surprises, they flipped the Coakley and Brown totals. The figures are eerie for their obviousness. I didn't round the figures, I worked from the raw data. Those trailing zeroes are real.

Count method Brown % Coakley % Libertarian % C/O to B/McC ratio (1) "Turnout" (2)

Republican owned counting machines 52.00 47.02 0.98 52.76 58.80

Hand counted 47.00 51.78 1.22 59.31 60.31

Independently owned counting machines (3) 49.32 50.01 0.67 61.61 70.00

Levers 65.08 33.59 1.33 44.64 50.00

(1) If the Coakley votes are expressed as a proportion of Obama's votes, and Brown's as a proportion of McCain's votes, and the ratio of these figures is calculated, it should be roughly constant since there is no reason for this ratio to change. I also calculated the relationships between Brown's votes on each equipment type and the votes for Barr/Baldwin, and the relationship between Coakley's votes and McKinney/Nader. The variation in these confirms that the Coakley/Brown figures were flipped on the Republican machines, and that Coakley's votes were undercounted on the lever machines.

(2) 100% - turnout % = the combined none voting number (reasonably constant unless suppressed) plus the uncounted votes cast.

(3) Used in only in Milton - acts as cross check by being very similar to the hand count result.

The lever machines were shimmed in favor of Brown by discarding about 8% of the votes cast for Coakley. The person that rigged those machines forgot that the third party candidate total would increase as a percentage of the total count under a three candidate scenario. Can we cross check this? Yes - the alleged turnout (which actually measures turnout minus the uncounted votes that were cast) is below the predicted percentages. The lever figures are easily detected as false because the person who 'fixed' them went way over the top on some machines. See Southbridge for example - 34% turnout (That shows how many uncounted Coakley votes were trimmed) and Coakley only getting 42% while Obama got 65% of the vote in 2008? These figures, combined with the third party 'surge' to almost 3% is an outlier that discloses the magnitude of skimming Coakley's votes.
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  -How the Republican's stole the Mass senate seat Faun Otter  Feb-03-10 04:59 PM   #0 
  - Bookmarking for later review.  BrklynLiberal   Feb-03-10 05:04 PM   #1 
  - has this information been passed on to william galvan?  Beer Snob-50   Feb-03-10 05:05 PM   #2 
  - If you have time I would change your subject line which reads tame to  peacetalksforall   Feb-03-10 05:09 PM   #3 
  - No wonder Brown wants to be sworn and seated asap....n/t  monmouth   Feb-03-10 05:10 PM   #4 
  - I find this extremely interesting  Blue Owl   Feb-03-10 05:13 PM   #5 
  - Why don't the dems address the electronic voting issue now that they are in power? -nt  CrispyQ   Feb-03-10 05:13 PM   #6 
  - Because they are in power. nt  Bill Bored   Feb-04-10 05:54 PM   #83 
     - Do you have a link to support that claiM?  Wilms   Feb-04-10 09:08 PM   #86 
  - "Unrecs"??? Why?  alstephenson   Feb-03-10 05:14 PM   #7 
  - And yet another "unrec"...  alstephenson   Feb-03-10 05:16 PM   #8 
  - obviously, some have a vested interest  Blue Owl   Feb-03-10 05:18 PM   #10 
  - IBTOTOH. n/t  Ellipsis   Feb-03-10 05:18 PM   #9 
  - gee, thanks  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-03-10 06:40 PM   #29 
     - *grin*  Ellipsis   Feb-04-10 09:42 AM   #76 
        - ooh, I almost missed your edit  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-04-10 02:01 PM   #79 
  - I'm beginning to think a Democratic loss can never be accepted as legitimate.  elocs   Feb-03-10 05:25 PM   #11 
  - The figures are there  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 05:38 PM   #13 
     - As Twain said, "there are lies, damn lie, and statistics.  elocs   Feb-03-10 05:40 PM   #14 
        - Explain the figures  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 05:45 PM   #19 
           - Who's we?  smoogatz   Feb-03-10 05:55 PM   #24 
              - We  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 09:57 PM   #38 
  - Where did you get this information? As far as I'm concerned  virgogal   Feb-03-10 05:37 PM   #12 
  - Sources  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 05:42 PM   #16 
     - Thank you so much. eom  virgogal   Feb-03-10 06:19 PM   #28 
     - so, you allege that the Coakley and Brown figures literally were swapped?  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-03-10 06:42 PM   #31 
        - Registrations age  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 10:33 PM   #43 
           - what makes you think I haven't?  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-04-10 04:55 AM   #55 
              - Nope  Faun Otter   Feb-04-10 08:25 AM   #60 
                 - sorry, I don't understand this response  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-04-10 09:03 AM   #71 
  - and all conspiracy theories aside maybe we just had a weak ass candidate.  YOY   Feb-03-10 05:40 PM   #15 
  - This isn't a theory  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 05:43 PM   #17 
     - Get some links for your facts.  YOY   Feb-03-10 05:45 PM   #18 
        - Sure  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 05:48 PM   #21 
           - what's your source of info on equipment?  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-03-10 06:53 PM   #34 
              - Levers  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 10:01 PM   #39 
                 - you think that supports your inference?  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-04-10 05:22 AM   #56 
                 - Poll books  Faun Otter   Feb-04-10 08:34 AM   #61 
                    - Please provide details and links regarding  Wilms   Feb-04-10 08:53 AM   #66 
                    - The history is here  Faun Otter   Feb-04-10 09:13 AM   #73 
                       - Is that the ONLY source.  Wilms   Feb-04-10 09:50 AM   #77 
                    - hmm  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-04-10 08:55 AM   #67 
                 - after further review...  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-04-10 02:31 PM   #80 
                    - BBV  Faun Otter   Feb-04-10 05:04 PM   #81 
                    - OTOH, the explanation is simple:  Bill Bored   Feb-04-10 06:40 PM   #85 
                       - And they did all that without a small plane crash?  Wilms   Feb-04-10 09:11 PM   #87 
                          - Thankfully. nt  Bill Bored   Feb-04-10 11:29 PM   #89 
  - Sources please.  smoogatz   Feb-03-10 05:46 PM   #20 
  - See above  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 05:49 PM   #22 
  - i think it's obvious what happened:  smoogatz   Feb-03-10 05:54 PM   #23 
     - But that would be too simple, wouldn't it? We need a deep, dark conspiracy to explain things.  elocs   Feb-03-10 06:04 PM   #26 
     - Accuracy is what matters  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 10:30 PM   #42 
     - Exact locations of source material  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 10:22 PM   #40 
  - HE MADE THEM UP  OregonBi   Feb-04-10 02:14 AM   #50 
     - c'mon, Faun already linked to the numbers  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-04-10 05:28 AM   #57 
        - Thanks OTOH  Faun Otter   Feb-04-10 08:37 AM   #62 
  - Meh.  yowzayowzayowza   Feb-03-10 06:02 PM   #25 
  - the premise is faulty  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-03-10 06:47 PM   #33 
     - Yes or no, I think!  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 10:27 PM   #41 
        - you're moving the goalposts, actually  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-04-10 05:43 AM   #58 
           - Well said.  smoogatz   Feb-04-10 08:03 AM   #59 
              - Turnout is a misnomer  Faun Otter   Feb-04-10 08:41 AM   #63 
              - defection affects the ratio(s), too  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-04-10 08:44 AM   #64 
              - Thanks  Faun Otter   Feb-04-10 08:58 AM   #70 
              - This analysis is chasing the statistical shadow of the ghost ...  yowzayowzayowza   Feb-04-10 08:49 AM   #65 
  - the democratic party INC does not give a damn about vote integrity or it would be doing something  msongs   Feb-03-10 06:05 PM   #27 
  - A theory  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 10:37 PM   #44 
     - It's not about the "counting machine companies." Most of the state outsources their programming!  Bill Bored   Feb-04-10 11:24 PM   #88 
  - Please don't let all the comments about it ALL being Coakley's fault deter you.  peacetalksforall   Feb-03-10 06:40 PM   #30 
  - Contacts  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 10:40 PM   #45 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-03-10 06:45 PM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-03-10 08:51 PM   #35 
  - Easly stolen? How? By Who?  OregonBi   Feb-04-10 02:09 AM   #49 
     - Strat here  Faun Otter   Feb-04-10 08:57 AM   #68 
  - Do you have a link for the DU thread claiming ""aliens abducted me and probed my butt""?  Wilms   Feb-03-10 09:47 PM   #37 
  - sure!  OregonBi   Feb-04-10 02:17 AM   #51 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-04-10 08:58 AM   #69 
  - Funny  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 10:47 PM   #46 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-04-10 02:25 AM   #52 
        - You asked  Faun Otter   Feb-04-10 09:21 AM   #74 
  - Analyses like this are all good and useful, but the main point  Stevepol   Feb-03-10 09:24 PM   #36 
  - Absolutely true  Faun Otter   Feb-03-10 10:56 PM   #47 
  - Well said. If the onus were on the SOS and voting machine companies to  diva77   Feb-04-10 12:15 AM   #48 
  - here is where I wish we could recommend comments  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-04-10 09:11 AM   #72 
  - Bookmarked for later.  Betty Karlson   Feb-04-10 03:14 AM   #53 
  - The elections are controlled by private vendors, ES&S primarily.  Stevepol   Feb-04-10 04:02 AM   #54 
  - The lack of audits  Faun Otter   Feb-04-10 09:25 AM   #75 
     - Those audits are usually inadequate. n/t  Wilms   Feb-04-10 09:51 AM   #78 
  - There are no lever machines in Mass. Where did you find them? nt  Bill Bored   Feb-04-10 05:51 PM   #82 
     - there's one at the Norman Rockwell Museum!  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-04-10 06:09 PM   #84 

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