OnTheOtherHand
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Sun Sep-06-09 06:19 AM
Response to Reply #18 |
| 19. do you have any substantive response to post #9? |
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Or is this really more about starting fights than analyzing evidence? I know the opinion I'm forming.
Out in the real world, if any quantitative political scientist agrees with you that the exit polls were basically accurate, s/he is keeping the secret well. You can scan the journals in vain for debate on this issue, much less support for your side of it. I'm marginalized as a political scientist not by believing that Bush really got more votes (whether or not he "won fairly"), but by trying to take you seriously.
But when you refuse to address substance, you can't be taken seriously. You simply aren't showing up for work. Febble did more to document election failures in the two months after the 2004 election than Team TruthIsAll has managed in almost five years.
Right here on DU, I presented model results showing how a Gore-to-Bush defection rate about double the Bush-to-Kerry defection rate was broadly consistent with the election returns, the National Election Study 2000-04 panel data, and other evidence. TruthIsAll had so little substantive to say about that model that he got tombstoned instead. I don't think things have changed much since then.
It's a bit annoying to wade through all the swill, but mostly it's boring. We already know that you don't like to be disagreed with. Tell us something we don't know. For instance: what is your substantive response to post #9?
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| -Late Vote Smoking Guns: 2000-2008 |
WillE |
Sep-03-09 01:50 PM |
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the crucial error appears to be here: |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-03-09 04:14 PM |
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Yes, the NY late vote indicated a Gore bias. But there was NO Kerry bias in 2004. And 2008 ? |
WillE |
Sep-03-09 06:17 PM |
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it seems to me that you are simply ruling out an obvious possibility |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-03-09 08:46 PM |
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It seems to me that you easily dismiss the very strong State Late vote vs. Exit Poll correlation |
WillE |
Sep-04-09 08:35 AM |
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it seems to me that you didn't read my post |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-04-09 09:04 AM |
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You see, the point is: the exit polls were RIGHT in 2004. Kerry really DID win. |
WillE |
Sep-04-09 12:23 PM |
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that's a claim, and your own evidence undermines it |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-04-09 04:44 PM |
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You still believe that Bush won, "the greatest miracle of all" |
WillE |
Sep-04-09 07:16 PM |
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this is yet another non-responsive post |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-04-09 07:43 PM |
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I asked you for YOUR evidence. You resort to whining. |
WillE |
Sep-04-09 07:54 PM |
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umm, is post #9 actually invisible, or what? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-04-09 08:48 PM |
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Your obfuscation won't work. Late votes, exit polls and True votes INDEPENDENTLY expose you. |
WillE |
Sep-05-09 09:26 AM |
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"what are you going to do, bleed on me?" |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-05-09 11:52 AM |
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You are in a state of pure panic; you are the one bleeding |
WillE |
Sep-05-09 08:03 PM |
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hahaha |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-05-09 09:27 PM |
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You are dreaming.. |
WillE |
Sep-05-09 10:02 PM |
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do you have any substantive response to post #9? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-06-09 06:19 AM |
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Give us some names... |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 07:39 AM |
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do you have a substantive response to post #9? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-06-09 08:37 AM |
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Umm, did you read the reply in post # 14, or what? |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 08:19 AM |
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any reader can verify that you simply ignored my points |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-06-09 08:49 AM |
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Our evidence vs. your evidence |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 09:16 AM |
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do you have a substantive response to post #9? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-06-09 09:57 AM |
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Back in the USSR Quoting two Ruskies? Show us their evidence |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 12:12 PM |
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WTF?! "two Ruskies"?! (oh... got anything on post #9?) |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-06-09 06:41 PM |
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Now I see where TIA, er, Wile E., gets that punch card lever machine. |
Wilms |
Sep-06-09 06:55 PM |
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Phillips would NOT have written the article if he knew that the NY exits were off by 12%... |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 07:28 PM |
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Wow. Just wow. |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-06-09 07:37 PM |
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OK. You failed logic. So I won't expect you to make sense of what I'm about to say. |
Wilms |
Sep-06-09 09:29 PM |
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YOU speak of science? Your method is faith-based belief... |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 10:14 PM |
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When you demonstrate a rudimentery understanding of lever machines |
Wilms |
Sep-06-09 10:28 PM |
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Educate us, then, since you are such an expert... |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 11:14 PM |
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Round and round you go, TIA. |
Wilms |
Sep-07-09 12:26 AM |
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No, keeping the NY facts hidden is distracting... |
WillE |
Sep-07-09 07:13 AM |
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What's it like being irrelevant? |
Wilms |
Sep-07-09 11:15 AM |
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Love your ability to link and not think .. n/t |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 08:22 PM |
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So where is their evidence? |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 07:17 PM |
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you're asking for kindness? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-06-09 07:45 PM |
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You replied just as WE ALL KNEW you would. With NOTHING. |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 08:06 PM |
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"WE"? you and your imaginary friend? can he help out with post #9? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-06-09 09:10 PM |
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So did Myagkov et al actually analyze the U.S. (S)elections? NO! |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 07:56 PM |
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OK, this time you actually needed to read your own post |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-06-09 09:13 PM |
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Hehe. Not good enough. DISPLAY AND EXPLAIN THE RELEVANT ANALYSIS. |
WillE |
Sep-06-09 09:47 PM |
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this time you're not even going to admit your blunder? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-07-09 07:22 AM |
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You just cut yourself off. You read the book? Then show us what you learned. |
WillE |
Sep-07-09 07:36 AM |
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do you have a substantive response to post #9? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-07-09 07:44 AM |
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Uhm, er, pardon. But TIA just used a bunch of all caps. |
Wilms |
Sep-07-09 11:17 AM |
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hey, if he does it seven times, my exoskeleton will collapse |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-07-09 12:10 PM |
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Do you have anything SUBSTANTIVE to say? |
WillE |
Sep-07-09 12:16 PM |
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TIA, you are the "one-track agenda". And it's all about you. |
Wilms |
Sep-07-09 02:15 PM |
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K&R!! |
Stevepol |
Sep-04-09 03:52 AM |
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K&unR. |
yowzayowzayowza |
Sep-04-09 04:50 AM |
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