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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:29 PM
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5. "As all of America goes to a paper trail, paper ballots, and early voting...".
Last I checked, half the states still use 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY vote counting code, owned and controlled by a handful of rightwing corporations, with NO audit/recount controls. Most of this half of the states have no paper ballot at all; others may have a paper ballot but do a ZERO audit. And the other half of the states also use 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY vote counting code, owned and controlled by a handful of rightwing corporations, with a meager 1% audit. Experts whom I respect say a 10% audit is the minimum needed to detect fraud.

An adequate audit is especially necessary in a 'TRADE SECRET' code system--in which the inner workings of the voting machines and the central tabulators are hidden from public view. A paper ballot is an improvement, certainly, but it is not a significant improvement unless it is accompanied by an adequate, automatic audit (and not just one triggered by a very close vote.) We didn't have anything close to an adequate audit anywhere, last time I looked at national voting system stats (about two years ago).

Has something changed?

If these conditions have not been significantly improved, then it is by no means likely that the Pukes will "become a real minority party" (reflecting their true support). In fact, the opposite could easily happen. They could "gain" seats in Congress and other offices, and overthrow Obama in 2012, and we would be helpless to prevent it.


Please correct me if my information about the US voting system is outdated.
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