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UnitedVoters Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:49 AM
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15. IMHO the pros FAR outweigh the cons -- the Holt bill is great.
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 08:59 AM by UnitedVoters
For your information, Ellen Theisen is not promoting the VotePad and further she has no
vested interest in the Holt bill.


I said that as the inventor of VotePad she "perhaps" she has a vested interest in seeing the Holt bill fail, and I stand by that. She may not be actively promoting her invention right now but she may, repeat MAY, have an interest in a patent or other intelliectual property rights that would make the failure of the Holt bill to her advantage. The fact that she already has marketed for-profit a product that would be harmed by the bill automatically raises red flags when she opposes the legislation.

I would rather not see the vendors get a dime more.


Whether the Holt bill passes or not, the vendors going to get plenty of future cash as the DREs purchased in 2006 start aging and needing repairs or replacement with the next generation of paperless DRE crap and/or internet voting crap that will most assuredly be agressively marketed if this bill fails.

Voting vendors are turning optical scanners into a combo DRE/optical scanner machine.


That is false. The "DRE" portion of the new combo systems is a ballot marker that is needed to help the disabled vote privately and independently, which is the right thing to provide. The disabled have as much right to a private and independent vote as you or I do, and when they vote it should be possible for them to have a paper backup of their vote just as any other voter does.

States like mine, NC - have the early version of Automark that cannot be adapted so that the paper ballot does not have to be handled. NC would have to replace Automarks in all counties, and we might also have to replace all existing optical scan machines. We have specific requirements for voting vendors in our states that would likely lead to all new voting machines when we just purchased them in 2006.


By 2014 your state will have to start replacing a lot if not all of its 2006 stuff anyway. Automarks and scanners don't last forever. Eight years is a long time for electronic gear.

So my state may have something to lose - and voting vendors much to gain, if the Holt bill passes.


Your state will lose, as we all will, when we get another selected president like GW Bush in another election like FL 2000 or OH 2004 with perhaps no paper to recount in the problem area next time. As I said, the vendors are going to make money no matter what, perhaps even MORE if Holt bill does not pass.

So before you attack people for not supporting the bill, listen to their reasons.


If what I posted was an "attack" against someone then your post and Wilms' was equally an attack against me and I would thank you not to do so.
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