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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 12:49 PM
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19. here's something to think about
Don't you suppose that from my point of view, your two posts seem fairly smug and snide? And how much snarkier might you be if you had to put up with insinuations like these -- which, you must be aware, are not original to you? Seriously. But if these questions have been nagging at you, I hope my responses are helpful.

I can't prove fraud in FL-13 in 2006, but there's a very solid case that Jennings should have won -- just like there's a solid case that Gore should have won Florida in 2000. I don't think the methods have an inherent reactionary bias, or whatever. But when Miller, in the first few paragraphs of his op-ed, treats the retrospective poll results as if they are gospel (even though they contradict each other), and then admits later that they should be expected to change, well, it's weak. Someone might as well say so. I respect people who work harder at making sense. For instance, John Gideon busted his butt to be well informed, and he backed up his claims -- or retracted them on the rare occasions that he got something wrong. I guess he wasn't an A-list media star, but I daresay he was pretty damn effective. John Gideon a very high standard, but there are plenty of people with the same commitment to getting stuff right. Very cool.
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  -Obama won by MILLIONS MORE than we've been told - by Mark Crispin Miller kpete  Jun-21-09 08:08 AM   #0 
  - K&R  pleah   Jun-21-09 08:20 AM   #1 
  - Yea with so many comments about election results.  RandomThoughts   Jun-21-09 08:34 AM   #2 
  - Of course he did. Be glad the Bushies let him win at all. Of course they had to or risk an Iran.  tom_paine   Jun-21-09 09:31 AM   #3 
  - Page One of this article is missing. Click on the link an dpage 2 comes up again.  tom_paine   Jun-21-09 09:56 AM   #4 
  - it makes more sense without the first page  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-21-09 01:11 PM   #5 
  - And MCM goes as far as to make reference to what he sees as tortured logic.  Wilms   Jun-21-09 02:48 PM   #7 
  - I have to Ask  mcranor   Jun-22-09 06:31 PM   #14 
     - In fact there's nothing in the way of evidence in the Miller piece.  Wilms   Jun-22-09 09:11 PM   #16 
     - let's see  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-22-09 11:03 PM   #17 
        - Actually, pleased to meet you, too.  mcranor   Jun-23-09 11:45 AM   #18 
           - here's something to think about  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-23-09 12:49 PM   #19 
              - Quite Right  mcranor   Jun-23-09 01:43 PM   #20 
                 - 'sok  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-23-09 08:22 PM   #21 
  - I had no trouble bringing up pg one. Here it is:  Stevepol   Jun-21-09 01:52 PM   #6 
  - B-b-but ACORN. B-b-but CLINTON. B-b-b-but the LIBRUL MEDIA.  troubledamerican   Jun-21-09 10:59 PM   #8 
  - It is very common for people to declare they voted for the winner after the fact.  L. Coyote   Jun-22-09 12:32 AM   #9 
  - McCain is a Cylon  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jun-22-09 12:57 AM   #10 
  - You betcha, he is.  Wilms   Jun-22-09 01:03 AM   #11 
  - The biggest problem that we have here is that laws are made by people who have won elections  eridani   Jun-22-09 04:43 AM   #12 
  - I've heard him speak live. Very compelling. He said Kerry knew the election was rigged.  jazzjunkysue   Jun-22-09 08:54 AM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-22-09 07:23 PM   #15 

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