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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 01:13 PM
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24. There has not been enough outcry to overturn elections here yet...but
-Hillsbourgh (Tampa) tossed out a GOP election supervisor originally appointed by Jeb and replaced him with an elected Democrat
-Pinellas has more Democratic registrations than gop for the first time in many years, and Pinellas elected a Democratic state senator (Heller) and the main state gop candidate was investigated and arrested for some banking issues
-Sarasota is ready for a Democrat to take Buchannan's seat in the next election

The west coast of FL is moving in the right direction - and I think that Gov. Crist is more centrist (he is from St. Pete) because he sees his home area changing rapidly. He has openly avoided criticizing Obama. All the election process complaints have been a key to get more activists, meet-ups, and registrations. In some ways, the problems of FL have helped spur the Democratic party here. There has NOT been much of an official party effort to improve elections, watch elections, or run parallel elections. Almost all the efforts have been individual progressive groups or individual complaints.

Even Clint Curtis running for office got some play and Tom Feney has hopefully lost all momentum to national office because of the accusations of hacking DRE's. I'll bet that there will be instant notice of large undervotes in the next election. People who would never have questioned the voting process a decade ago are now questioning openly that their votes count. I see more "retired conservative" folks arguing to change the process now, not just us "wild leftist hippies".

The idea of a parallel election or some kind of check on the process is likely necessary because there are people here who will cheat the system no matter what kind of ballots or machines are used. I knew that NY and some other places had challenged election results, but we have a decade of Jeb appointed judges and gop election supervisors that have made the same kind of investigations pretty difficult. That is likely a difference. If the Sarasota evidence had been presented in a NY or California court, there may have been an entirely different conclusion.
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  - K/R! Needs 1 More for the "Greatest" Page  AndyTiedye   Mar-31-09 02:05 AM   #2 
  - K&R x 1,000!  Peace Patriot   Mar-31-09 03:10 AM   #3 
  - K&R nt  Mithreal   Mar-31-09 03:11 AM   #4 
  - In Fla in at least one precinct  HillbillyBob   Sep-18-09 04:21 PM   #28 
     - Tell them to shred THIS!  Bill Bored   Sep-18-09 04:27 PM   #29 
  - A MASTERPIECE k*r!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  autorank   Mar-31-09 03:19 AM   #5 
  - Given all the "new" revelations that DRE's & tabulators steal and drop votes...  Sancho   Mar-31-09 06:30 AM   #6 
  - I missed it... where is TIA's explanation?  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-31-09 06:38 AM   #7 
     - I've never seen sufficient precinct level data to do proper analysis of fraud...  Sancho   Mar-31-09 07:24 AM   #9 
     - "proper" analysis?  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-31-09 07:34 AM   #10 
        - There are many ways to skin the cat...  Sancho   Mar-31-09 08:00 AM   #12 
           - well, there's still a basic disconnect here  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-31-09 08:33 AM   #14 
              - Yes, I have jioned with Freeman on some efforts...  Sancho   Apr-01-09 01:55 PM   #18 
                 - hmm  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-01-09 02:27 PM   #20 
                    - There have been challenges in Florida, but what causes a court to intervene?  Sancho   Apr-02-09 06:43 AM   #22 
                       - well, I wasn't talking about courts  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-02-09 11:33 AM   #23 
                          - There has not been enough outcry to overturn elections here yet...but  Sancho   Apr-02-09 01:13 PM   #24 
     - TIA didn't offer an explanation...his results is consistent with possible problems.  Sancho   Mar-31-09 07:42 AM   #11 
     - oh, I see how I misread you  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-31-09 08:28 AM   #13 
        - I would guess that a hacker or hacker would not have "one" method...  Sancho   Apr-01-09 02:07 PM   #19 
           - yes, one should assume not  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-01-09 02:35 PM   #21 
     - "I don't think I have *ever* seen [TIA] analyze precinct-level results." The following confirmed  tiptoe   Mar-31-09 02:28 PM   #15 
        - sorry, no  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-31-09 03:21 PM   #17 
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  - k nt  tiptoe   Jul-11-09 11:18 AM   #25 
  - k&r.  byronius   Mar-31-09 03:15 PM   #16 
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