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Sat Feb-21-09 08:28 PM
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| -Voter's Unite Responds to NYVV's Innaccurate and Incomplete "Fact (sic) Sheet" |
Wilms |
Feb-20-09 11:24 PM |
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Are they all sleeping? Or are they just not doing their job |
kster |
Feb-21-09 01:11 AM |
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hey, do you have hand counted paper ballots in your home town, county or state? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Feb-21-09 12:31 PM |
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Hand Count |
a777pilot |
Feb-21-09 12:37 PM |
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Welcome to DU, 777. |
troubleinwinter |
Feb-21-09 07:49 PM |
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Hand Count E'm if you Got Em |
kster |
Feb-22-09 01:12 AM |
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We in NC deliberately chose the term "voting system" to ensure |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Feb-21-09 12:29 PM |
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They are not working against each other. NYVV has mistated some facts and VU has corrected them. |
Bill Bored |
Feb-21-09 10:46 PM |
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yeesh |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-22-09 07:28 AM |
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Wrong. |
Wilms |
Feb-22-09 10:53 AM |
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huh? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-22-09 01:17 PM |
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I'll put a lever up against a DRE, any day, in a transparency competition. |
Wilms |
Feb-22-09 04:14 PM |
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is that the choice? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-22-09 07:41 PM |
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The difference is... |
Bill Bored |
Feb-22-09 08:38 PM |
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Pencil lead will wear away as gears rub against it over the course of election day... |
demodonkey |
Feb-22-09 09:26 PM |
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Well, that's why the machine should be tested before each election and LOCKED. |
Bill Bored |
Feb-23-09 01:42 PM |
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The old-time reasoning was that the person doing the locking was the person inserting the lead. |
demodonkey |
Feb-23-09 06:17 PM |
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One problem with this scenario in NY: |
Bill Bored |
Feb-23-09 08:56 PM |
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You brought up DREs. I didn't. |
Wilms |
Feb-22-09 10:40 PM |
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but so far you haven't addressed my central point |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-23-09 05:44 AM |
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I did address your point. |
Wilms |
Feb-23-09 09:25 AM |
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it's my vote, not yours |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-23-09 12:51 PM |
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Wilms' point about the "Me Generation" is intertesting. |
Bill Bored |
Feb-23-09 02:25 PM |
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I just don't think this is correct |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-24-09 08:02 AM |
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This isn't about Novick...or Jones. |
Wilms |
Feb-24-09 09:29 AM |
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I'll tell you who's really in deep denial: |
Bill Bored |
Feb-26-09 02:36 AM |
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Can I quote you?!? |
Wilms |
Feb-26-09 09:13 AM |
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Wilms, WTF? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-27-09 04:09 PM |
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I'm just appreciating it. |
Wilms |
Feb-27-09 09:07 PM |
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Now boys, boys...please let's try to keep the discussion CIVIL! |
Bill Bored |
Mar-02-09 02:23 PM |
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How's those ballot security bills going in the NYS Legislature? |
Wilms |
Feb-23-09 09:34 PM |
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no, I'm totally frustrated about the matter at hand |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-24-09 07:57 AM |
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It's bizarre to you. |
Wilms |
Feb-24-09 09:34 AM |
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Levers are NOT transparent, their plus is the limited risk compared to risk with computerized voting |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Feb-23-09 07:17 PM |
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Avi Rubin on software vs. lever machines: |
Bill Bored |
Feb-24-09 03:14 AM |
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Levers are NOT transparent, their plus is the limited risk compared to risk with computerized voting |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Feb-23-09 07:17 PM |
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See Post #21. Transparency is in the eye of the beholder, but with software, |
Bill Bored |
Feb-24-09 03:07 AM |
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self delete |
Cookie wookie |
Mar-06-09 07:14 AM |
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K&R! |
Stevepol |
Feb-21-09 08:28 PM |
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NYVV's interpretation re permanent paper records is reasonable |
payin attention |
Feb-26-09 12:48 AM |
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well... |
OnTheOtherHand |
Feb-28-09 10:10 AM |
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GIven the EAC Advisory, NYVV is reasonable |
payin attention |
Feb-28-09 10:29 PM |
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the ground is getting a bit boggy |
OnTheOtherHand |
Mar-01-09 09:24 AM |
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Professor Blur, do you still defend Lipari being disingenuous and misleading? |
Wilms |
Mar-01-09 10:19 AM |
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dude, you are flatly misquoting him |
OnTheOtherHand |
Mar-01-09 12:40 PM |
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I have not misquoted him. |
Wilms |
Mar-01-09 01:41 PM |
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look, you can't win this |
OnTheOtherHand |
Mar-01-09 06:05 PM |
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Hey. I already "won". |
Wilms |
Mar-01-09 07:14 PM |
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I welcome anyone to listen to the MP3 |
OnTheOtherHand |
Mar-01-09 09:00 PM |
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Forget my "line". It's Lipari's at issue. |
Wilms |
Mar-01-09 10:48 PM |
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That advisory is NOT reasonable! |
Bill Bored |
Mar-01-09 05:11 PM |
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You are wrong. Here's why: |
Bill Bored |
Mar-01-09 05:00 PM |
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Oh, and BTW, you're wrong about this too: |
Bill Bored |
Mar-02-09 02:01 PM |
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kick! nt |
Bill Bored |
May-20-09 10:58 AM |
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