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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 06:21 AM
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18. actually, I think they use DREs with a VVPAT
Here is a discussion at Caracas Chronicles, which, for what it's worth, generally opposes Chavez. Similar (older) content appears at a pro-Chavez site (the same one cited by Peace Patriot) here.

By the way, without opining on Venezuelan politics, I'm struck by this from the first article I linked to:

A fraud allegation, acta en mano, would be absolutely devastating. Without it, it's worse than a waste of time: it's a credibility black hole. Loose talk of election fraud with no evidence to back it up has cost the anti-Chvez movement way too much in the past for us to continue to tolerate it.
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  -"Venezuelan elections Transparent and Exemplary," International Observers Report Peace Patriot  Feb-17-09 12:32 PM   #0 
  - Maybe Chavez could send some elections advisors here to help us have fair elections.  Stevepol   Feb-17-09 12:59 PM   #1 
  - Not a bad idea. We could also learn from the awesome grass roots organization  Peace Patriot   Feb-17-09 01:52 PM   #2 
     - One other thing: How did they achieve honest election systems?  Peace Patriot   Feb-17-09 02:40 PM   #3 
  - They have moved to electronic voting, its only a  kster   Feb-18-09 12:50 AM   #4 
  - I'm not advocating electronics--just staying that Venezuela has publicly owned,  Peace Patriot   Feb-18-09 05:09 AM   #5 
     - I love a friendly debate, "You prediction is based on no evidence"  kster   Feb-19-09 02:18 AM   #6 
  - Voting fair? Doubt it.  a777pilot   Feb-20-09 04:09 PM   #7 
  - ?! There IS a paper trail -- that's what is voter-verified  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-20-09 05:03 PM   #8 
  - voting  a777pilot   Feb-20-09 05:20 PM   #11 
     - They use OpScan. There is a paper ballot.  EFerrari   Feb-21-09 02:00 AM   #17 
        - actually, I think they use DREs with a VVPAT  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-21-09 06:21 AM   #18 
           - You're right. Where did I get the OpScan notion, I wonder?  EFerrari   Feb-21-09 01:29 PM   #19 
              - No Way  a777pilot   Feb-21-09 01:54 PM   #20 
                 - Open source software and audits. Their practice is more transparent  EFerrari   Feb-21-09 02:00 PM   #21 
                 - Way.  eomer   Feb-23-09 05:50 AM   #22 
  - One post ??  galloglas   Feb-20-09 05:16 PM   #9 
     - Why here?  a777pilot   Feb-20-09 05:24 PM   #12 
        - just FYI  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-20-09 06:20 PM   #16 
  - K & R # 5 !  galloglas   Feb-20-09 05:18 PM   #10 
     - What?  a777pilot   Feb-20-09 05:32 PM   #13 
        - when a post gets the fifth recommendation...  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-20-09 06:07 PM   #14 
           - Thanks  a777pilot   Feb-20-09 06:11 PM   #15 

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