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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 05:09 AM
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5. I'm not advocating electronics--just staying that Venezuela has publicly owned,
OPEN SOURCE (transparent, reviewable by anyone) programming code, and they hand count a whopping 55% of the ballots. They didn't start with a rotten system like ours. And it is not true to say that it is "only a matter time" before their system is corrupted. They have many failsafes to prevent this, including a highly independent Election Commission, and contentious parties in Venezuela that zealously guard the process. They have 70% turnouts. Everybody is involved. And they invite hundreds of international election monitors into the country to survey and write reports on every aspect of the system.

You prediction is based on no evidence at all that any such thing could happen in Venezuela. We started with an extremely corrupt system, with the code owned and controlled by Bushwhacks, and 99% to 100% non-transparency--a system designed to re-elect Bush-Cheney and fuck up our Congresses, and get that last trillion dollars for the bankers. Our is a different situation than Venezuela. I would ban all electronics here, because of this. Maybe some day we could go to OPEN SOURCE code electronics, but not any time soon. We also have to consider half-way measures, because the money corruption around our voting systems is one of the biggest obstacles to reform, and we MUST start electing better people to Congress. So I would say we need a paper ballot for every vote, of course, and a 100% handcount for several election cycles, with the 'TRADE SECRET' machines. I, too, would like to ban them completely, but that is going to be extremely difficult to achieve in the near future. You got a million people to take with you to Washington DC to get it done? People who can afford to do that, and who will give up weeks or months of their lives, say, in a sit-in? Ain't going to happen soon enough.
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