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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 08:19 AM
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9. We need a national law requiring paper ballots AND mandatory random manual audits.
In Tennessee, we passed the TN Voter Confidence Act (TVCA) (which mandates the above) overwhelmingly, but only because the corrupt Rethugs, clueless Democrats and on-the-take state election officials postponed its implementation until 2010.

Then, when the Rethugs won EVERY OPEN SEAT in our legislature in November (giving them control of our legislature for the first time since Reconstruction (think Georgia 2002 -- same m.o., same result)), they have now announced that one of their three legislative priorities this year is to repeal the TVCA. As Gomer Pyle would say, "Sur-prize, sur-prize, sur-prize."

Rush Holt has been one of the few US Congresscritters to understand the vulnerabilities of our non-verifiable voting systems and to work to remedy the problem. I agree completely with DemoDonkey -- this time around, we need to work to submit, amend where necessary and finally pass a national mandate to allow free, fair and verifiable elections. The last time around, our so-called "election integrity" movement did more to scuttle this effort than the real bad guys. That remains a major embarrassment and source of frustration for me and the many others (like DemoD) who are actually doing the footwork in our states to protect the vote.

For once, it would be nice to put principle before personalities in this effort. Otherwise, we just keep shouting from the rooftops while the Rethugs go on laughing at us and stealing elections.

If LS or anyone else has suggested amendments to Holt's latest effort, have the courtesy and good sense to work with his office, instead of braying your complaints here.

Now it's off to the Garden.
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  -Holt's 2009 "Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act" worse Nightmare Than Ever Before Land Shark  Feb-14-09 08:26 PM   #0 
  - Alternatively, a shining beacon of light showing us what NOT to do. nt  Land Shark   Feb-14-09 09:53 PM   #1 
  - Could we please just NOT go through this again?  demodonkey   Feb-14-09 10:45 PM   #2 
  - Who released the bill AGAIN? (Holt) Copies are circulated. Is only praise allowable?  Land Shark   Feb-14-09 11:19 PM   #3 
     - I believe they are not fully OFF the drawing board yet.  demodonkey   Feb-14-09 11:51 PM   #5 
        - Quit spewing nonsense, demodonkey. Why was the draft introduced?  Wilms   Feb-15-09 10:33 AM   #12 
  - paperless DREs are better  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-14-09 11:49 PM   #4 
  - Yeah. Right.  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 09:32 AM   #10 
     - sorry, though you knew me enough to detect sarcasm  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-15-09 11:46 AM   #13 
        - I apologize. You're right -- your comments were so outrageous that I should have known better.  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 12:22 PM   #17 
           - Still waiting for a PM ....  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 03:55 PM   #24 
              - <<< crickets >>>  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 05:24 PM   #27 
                 - Kindly see post #29.  troubleinwinter   Feb-15-09 05:57 PM   #29 
                    - 000 hoot-owls 000  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 06:09 PM   #31 
                    - BTW, this is post #29 (?)  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 06:34 PM   #32 
                       - My apologies for the typo.  troubleinwinter   Feb-15-09 07:22 PM   #33 
                          - I was referring to the state you live in -- don't know that info either about you, so ....  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 08:09 PM   #34 
                             - Oh. Yes, I live in a "beautiful state".  troubleinwinter   Feb-15-09 09:01 PM   #35 
                                - Ya'at'eeh  Fly by night   Feb-16-09 06:39 AM   #36 
  - We can put a man on the moon,  bleever   Feb-15-09 01:52 AM   #6 
  - Those in control don't want an accurate vote count-imho  mod mom   Feb-15-09 07:53 AM   #8 
  - Manipulate the Mind, Holt is like David Blain if the first Illusion  kster   Feb-15-09 02:18 AM   #7 
  - We need a national law requiring paper ballots AND mandatory random manual audits.  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 08:19 AM   #9 
  - Right on!  troubleinwinter   Feb-15-09 11:59 AM   #15 
     - Again, I've not been around here for a while.  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 12:31 PM   #18 
        - I have followed your work most appreciatively.  troubleinwinter   Feb-15-09 04:57 PM   #26 
           - Thanks, I can guess. Once again, I haven't been around here a while, though I was here for 3+ years.  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 05:36 PM   #28 
  - Bookmarked, K&R, thanks for posting!  Pooka Fey   Feb-15-09 09:58 AM   #11 
  - I would say it with less hyperbole, and point out that we need to focus on the newest threat  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-15-09 11:54 AM   #14 
  - Guess who is an Arizona Libertarian right-winger.  troubleinwinter   Feb-15-09 12:03 PM   #16 
  - 'hman mind' misspelled in bolded text - does that mean I can be a proofreader? eom  crikkett   Feb-15-09 12:38 PM   #19 
  - ya forgot  troubleinwinter   Feb-15-09 12:47 PM   #20 
     - Aha! I didn't read that far. Stopped after I found the first error  crikkett   Feb-15-09 02:06 PM   #22 
        - Irony is, you've still missed a bunch. nt  Land Shark   Feb-15-09 02:58 PM   #23 
           - 'Spell-check" is our friend. Spell-check is our friend. Spell-check is .....  Fly by night   Feb-15-09 04:18 PM   #25 
              - Sure, but not on spelling tests where the idea is to catch the errors! nt  2 Much Tribulation   Feb-15-09 06:01 PM   #30 
  - Acting with the utmost urgency, in this matter of these continuing attempts to render elections  Joe Chi Minh   Feb-15-09 01:44 PM   #21 

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