OnTheOtherHand
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Sat Jan-24-09 07:18 AM
Response to Reply #79 |
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Obviously cs2 has an 'agenda' of expressing skepticism about the Connell story. I'm skeptical about the Connell story (I mean specifically the part about election fraud in 2004), too, although cs2 seems to personalize his skepticism more than I do. I understand that some people feel compelled to defend you; it just doesn't interest me that much.
In general, my own experience here has been that many people interpret skepticism as disruption regardless of the skeptics' intentions. It seems kind of silly to me. If someone is wrong, it's often easy to show how. And if someone is right, one can learn regardless of motives. That's how freedom of speech functions to promote collective learning, but only if people want to learn.
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| -Connell widow says considered restraining order for RS blogger |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-21-09 07:01 PM |
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yikes! K&R... nt |
druidity33 |
Jan-21-09 07:22 PM |
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Ken Stewarts' Lodge in Bath is expensive ... |
zbdent |
Jan-21-09 07:28 PM |
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Icky Rethug Overpriced Samonella Joint |
we can do it |
Jan-21-09 07:43 PM |
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WTF??? |
Dennis Donovan |
Jan-21-09 07:31 PM |
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I'm sure that's who Mrs. Connell was talking about |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-21-09 08:03 PM |
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you are assuming that Heather actually said this... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 12:15 AM |
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Larisa is NOT a "self-styled journalist." She has broken major stories. |
Hissyspit |
Jan-21-09 11:18 PM |
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Hiss... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 12:28 AM |
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James Renner should have let you tell your side |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-22-09 07:39 PM |
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as usual... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 09:04 PM |
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I didn't assume anything |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-22-09 09:44 PM |
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did you read my last article |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 09:57 PM |
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Yeah. I read lots of stuff about Connell |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-22-09 10:03 PM |
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i did not OUT |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 10:11 PM |
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Here you go, nearly 3000 words... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 09:59 PM |
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Those reports came out of Velvet Underground too. |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-22-09 10:05 PM |
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lmao... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 10:23 PM |
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creekersneeker2 was tombstoned, funny coinkiedink with you |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-24-09 02:01 PM |
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Merry Widow |
Jambalaya |
Jan-21-09 07:32 PM |
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Very bizzare disclosure. Some "investigation", eh? n/t |
chill_wind |
Jan-21-09 11:15 PM |
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yes.. why does he not name me? |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 12:18 AM |
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Exactly. It seems like an effort to discredit and chase away |
chill_wind |
Jan-22-09 03:54 AM |
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don't know who this guy is... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 04:00 AM |
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Larisa, a couple links I just grabbed in post #19. n/t |
chill_wind |
Jan-22-09 04:06 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-22-09 09:01 PM |
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That is the way it looks to me too. What a hit piece. nt |
glitch |
Jan-22-09 08:28 AM |
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yeah... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 11:41 AM |
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Hmm, I wonder if Arneback has seen this? Could be very interesting to him. |
glitch |
Jan-22-09 02:08 PM |
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what is strange here too and which makes me think he is making it up |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 12:17 AM |
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Just a guess |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-22-09 06:13 AM |
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okay... this is the first sensible thing i have seen you type |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-23-09 11:29 PM |
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and then she goes on about how she has her husband's ashes in the house ... |
zbdent |
Jan-23-09 12:06 PM |
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I'm not sure the heading "Cover Story" sends the message they want, |
bleever |
Jan-21-09 10:56 PM |
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::Smack!:: That went right by me the first time I read it. :-) |
chill_wind |
Jan-22-09 04:55 AM |
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this is the second time you have posted this |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 12:12 AM |
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I started 2 threads at the same time |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-22-09 01:24 PM |
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delete |
Hissyspit |
Jan-22-09 01:13 AM |
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what did you delete? |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 02:52 AM |
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It was incoherent. I was falling asleep at the keyboard. |
Hissyspit |
Jan-22-09 12:15 PM |
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ah... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 03:13 PM |
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James Renner |
chill_wind |
Jan-22-09 04:04 AM |
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seems kind of cool actually |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 04:13 AM |
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Among other things, he fancies himself to be a debunker.. |
chill_wind |
Jan-22-09 04:32 AM |
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Was the link to newamericancentury.org at the bottom of Renner's story |
clear eye |
Jan-25-09 12:10 PM |
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i wonder if she told him about the bomb threat at the park |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 11:49 AM |
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Larisa, I just found some more that would interest you. See post # 45. |
chill_wind |
Jan-22-09 07:16 PM |
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Sounds like they are trying to discredit Connell, a la Martha Mitchell. |
glitch |
Jan-22-09 08:24 AM |
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this style reminds me of that local Alabama hack |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 11:38 AM |
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I've got his name somewhere. I'll see if I can find it. |
Hissyspit |
Jan-22-09 12:08 PM |
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he was that guy who was at Horont's Alabama lecture |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 12:14 PM |
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Eddie Curran. |
Hissyspit |
Jan-22-09 12:21 PM |
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yes... yep... that is him |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 03:11 PM |
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Yes. |
Hissyspit |
Jan-22-09 03:48 PM |
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Ha! That is what I just said in response to your other post. |
glitch |
Jan-22-09 02:11 PM |
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great minds... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 03:11 PM |
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Larisa is not an "RS blogger." She is a major American investigative journalist. |
Hissyspit |
Jan-22-09 12:12 PM |
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since when is "blogger" an attack? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-22-09 04:36 PM |
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um... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 09:18 PM |
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certainly, you said no such thing n/t |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-23-09 04:58 AM |
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but i am trying to |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-23-09 11:25 PM |
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my take, briefly |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-24-09 07:18 AM |
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well we will agree to disagree then |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-24-09 09:34 AM |
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Larisa does not "blog" on Raw Story. |
Hissyspit |
Jan-22-09 10:48 PM |
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huh? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-23-09 05:26 AM |
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My subject line just boils down to as few words as I could fashion |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-22-09 05:36 PM |
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fallacy of the excluded middle? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-22-09 05:47 PM |
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as to your last point... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 09:24 PM |
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You said that the first time I posted. |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-22-09 09:51 PM |
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no... i actually was stupid enough |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 09:56 PM |
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I'm continuing to follow this story. |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-22-09 10:08 PM |
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I couldna care less |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-23-09 05:40 AM |
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interesting... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 09:22 PM |
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Questions raised by others about the cred of James Renner (book). |
chill_wind |
Jan-22-09 06:59 PM |
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Two more blogs of opposing perspective- more on Renner. |
chill_wind |
Jan-22-09 08:06 PM |
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wow... well |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-22-09 09:26 PM |
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And you post this hit piece here on DU because???? |
L. Coyote |
Jan-22-09 11:16 PM |
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I'm not sure its a hit piece |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-23-09 10:37 AM |
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well, i ask again... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-23-09 12:18 PM |
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I called it a great piece |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-23-09 05:50 PM |
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wow, you really get around |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-23-09 11:12 PM |
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Our election system is now run by private, rightwing corporations... |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-23-09 05:37 PM |
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wow, you have some nerve |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-23-09 06:58 PM |
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You did it twice (at least). |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-23-09 09:06 PM |
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I'm waiting for OnTheOtherHand to prove his allegation-"Fact-checking never was your forte." |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-24-09 12:35 AM |
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what, you want me to wade through the archives? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-24-09 07:28 AM |
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malarkey |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-24-09 07:34 AM |
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May I say something here? |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-23-09 11:21 PM |
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This whole stinking cesspool detracts from people doing real journlism and investigation |
L. Coyote |
Jan-23-09 11:38 PM |
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Yeah, I understand your point (ignore it), but I entered a couple of this character's |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-24-09 07:53 AM |
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I smell sulpher in the OP |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-24-09 01:46 AM |
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Quote |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-24-09 07:09 AM |
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Ah, the Grand Inquisitor is back! Answer his questions, or you're a liar. |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-24-09 08:37 AM |
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Larisa |
JamesRenner |
Jan-24-09 08:57 AM |
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Wow... Mr. Renner |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-24-09 09:38 AM |
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I asked him for his reaction on his blog |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-24-09 10:28 AM |
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my, my |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-24-09 10:26 AM |
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I tip my hat to you sir |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-24-09 10:48 AM |
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He has his moments. |
Ellipsis |
Jan-24-09 10:57 AM |
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definitely some things a journalist would NOT write |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-24-09 01:30 PM |
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Those are great questions |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-24-09 12:22 PM |
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If you think that was bad... |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-24-09 12:30 PM |
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I see...it's not election fraud, it's just a kerfuffle. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-25-09 10:41 PM |
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late to the thread? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-26-09 08:34 AM |
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I know exactly what you're driving at, and no, I won't be stopped. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-26-09 11:20 AM |
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oh, bravely said! |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-26-09 05:31 PM |
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We'd ALL feel much more alive if the obvious election fraud in 2004 were forced into the open and |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-26-09 06:08 PM |
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la |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-26-09 08:29 PM |
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Take a look at this whole thread. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-26-09 09:16 PM |
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I guess that would be, "No, no point" |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-27-09 05:17 AM |
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welcome to the Election Reform Forum |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-26-09 09:51 PM |
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...and you're all of 30 years old. I doubt very much... |
Ellipsis |
Jan-24-09 10:54 AM |
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I read yer shit on the original link. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-25-09 10:44 PM |
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is this the same as sockpuppet Creekersneeker2? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-24-09 01:58 PM |
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I'm not him |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-24-09 02:50 PM |
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There's a very interesting interview of Larisa on this subject |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-24-09 12:36 PM |
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does anyone think |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-24-09 12:41 PM |
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No. Strikes me a message... someone didn't want you to interface. |
Ellipsis |
Jan-24-09 01:14 PM |
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and a discussion thread in GD on all of this |
Ellipsis |
Jan-24-09 01:03 PM |
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Larisa |
JamesRenner |
Jan-24-09 03:29 PM |
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By all means |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-24-09 05:25 PM |
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You believe the widow of a man who worked for Karl Rove, who was Rove's high tech |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-24-09 05:46 PM |
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Dude, I'm not Larisa. Are you really James Renner? I have to tell you... |
Ellipsis |
Jan-24-09 05:50 PM |
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It's on the DU front page, now. |
Hissyspit |
Jan-24-09 07:54 PM |
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mark's interview should be front page |
lala_rawraw |
Jan-24-09 08:21 PM |
#113 |
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